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The 28th Amendment

Thanks to Richard in Atascadero for passing this along — a proposed 28th Amendment to the Constitution.

Amendment 28

Congress shall make no law that applies to the citizens of the United States that does not apply equally to the Senators or Representatives, and Congress shall make no law that applies to the Senators or Representatives that does not apply equally to the citizens of the United States .

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  1. November 11, 2009 at 2:11 am

    Sadly, the only way we have found to value that human capital is in terms of money. We trade our man-hours of labor or intellectual capability for money and then we trade that money for food, shelter, sustainment needs or recreation. Until we can figure out a better way of valuing human capital, our monetary capitalist system is the only way to go. Trying to undo this system with the failed concepts of Marxist-Socialism and Leninistic Communism is the wrong answer. Command economies have failed every time they are tried. Even Maoist China has embraced monetary capitalism and have began turning their backs on the philosophy of Marxist-Communism. The bill that passed House and will hopefully die in the Senate follows these failed precepts and will lead to disaster as every attempt to command the economy has done.

  2. November 11, 2009 at 2:42 am

    I heard that the House Healthcare bill is so massive that, if passed by the Senate, will become self-aware on New Year's Day 2013, wage war with humanity in a nuclear holocaust and send terminators back in time to try to kill John Connor.That is why you read the bill.

  3. November 11, 2009 at 2:54 am

    Begin by ending corporate person hood and go from there.

  4. November 11, 2009 at 4:42 am

    Today is a great day for America as John Allen Mohammed felt the sting of the executioner's needle as the death penalty was exercised in Maryland. This is the same justice that Hasan will know in due time.

  5. November 11, 2009 at 6:19 am

    The death penalty is wrong and gives every killer justification to be their own judge, jury and executioner. The death penalty debases and coarsens society. It has harmed the United States in ways that most of us don't understand.And to think of all the innocent people who have been mistakenly executed. The crazed murder sprees, such as Columbine, Fort Hood, etc., have their roots in in the morality that allows the death penalty.The death penalty teaches that we can end problems by killing. That is what it teaches children. And those children grow up. And some of them decide to enforce their own death penalties for themselves and others.The death penalty is a telling sign of weakness, laziness and immorality in a modern society.Every execution will be balanced by another killing, in a karmic, cause-and-effect process that is unending, except through the intervention of love. Those who relish executions, will, one day, in this life or another, on some plane of existence, know what it is like to be killed by a fellow human being, or feel the pain of having a loved one killed or commit suicide. The death penalty promotes and celebrates death. It spawns suicide and it spawns murder rather than prevents it. It is barbaric, unholy and unnecessary. It is a weakness.

  6. November 11, 2009 at 6:50 am

    Personally, I have no trouble with executing criminals. Counting down the days to Rex Krebs for example. However, I continue to be troubled by a flawed death penalty SYSTEM, meaning the bias remains against poor, black men, especially those accused of killing white people. They have terrible lawyers. Innocent people have been known to be sent to death row. It doesn't seem fair. The system is flawed and need serious revamping and strong safeguards.But for those, like Krebs, where there is no doubt, let them fry.

  7. November 11, 2009 at 7:45 am

    There was no doubt about Mohammed and there is no doubt about Hasan. Just because Hasan claims to be muslim (I say claims because no good Muslim, assuming that islam is a religion of peace would do as Hasan did)and John Allen Mohammed is black does not absolve them of their crimes. The system is flawed, there is no doubt. Mohammed committed his crimes years ago and only now is he receiving justice. Dennis Rader in kansas, the BTK, will not get the death penalty because some legal jerk says that since the death penalty didn't exist when he committed the crimes he can't be executed. BTK, if anyone, deserves the hangman's noose or the jolt of old sparky. White mass murders like Dahmer should have been executed by society and not by prison justice (he was killed in a shower scuffle by fellow inmates).As for Wise Guys rant, he is a very, very small minority. Fortunately, he is in that small minority because his views would place average Americans in ever increasing jeopardy. But keep talking, it informs everyone's opinions on what the lunatic fringe thinks and its his right under our Constitution.

  8. November 11, 2009 at 8:20 am

    There have been many suggestions for a 28th Amendment to the Constitution, so the one proposed here is not "the original"; however, it certainly has merit. Rich from Paso has a pretty good idea as well, and the first anonymouse has good point as well.But since we seemed to have drifted off onto the subject of capital punishment, how about a few statistics: In 2008, ninety three percent of the world's "lawful" executions were performed by five countries; China (which has the most, by far), Iran, Saudi Arabia, Pakistan and the United States of America. As an opponent of the death penalty, I am saddened by the company that our country keeps in this regard. Dave, you are correct that there are many problems with our justice system putting innocent people to death, like recently in Texas where a man was put to death by the state there for supposedly killing his family in a house fire that fire investigators have recently determined that he did not set the fire, but the man was executed anyway in an act that should be classified as murder by the governor since he did nothing to stop until all evidence could be reviewed. I have called into Dave's show before to argue that executions are state sanctioned murder, because in California when a prisoner is executed there is an autopsy performed, and the cause of death is labeled "homicide" because the life was terminated in an unnatural manner. I don't like that my state has the ability to determine who lives and who dies, and it is done in my name since I am a resident of this state. But I heard a term recently that quite succinctly states what an execution really is all about: Executions are a ritualized human sacrifice. Think about it for awhile; there are many "rituals" that are performed leading up to and during an execution, not the least of which is the manner in which the condemned is restrained; on a special execution table that has the prisoner's arms spread out similar to a crucifix, there are "witnesses" who watch the event, and a human life is terminated. I for one would prefer that the government does not perform these human sacrifices at all, ever. I know that those of you who have no problem with executions will offer back arguments like the death penalty is a deterrent (it is proven that it is not), or you will say that the person executed will never kill again, or that the families of those who were murdered by the prisoner will have "closure" with an execution; none of those will sway my opinion that it is wrong, so don't bother.

  9. November 11, 2009 at 12:21 pm

    Ask yourself: How do liberals rationalize being pro-abortion and yet anti-death penalty? Both result in the death of a human being. And yes, left unmolested by a butcher performing the abortion, that fetus will become a human being out of the womb as it has done for millions of years. I know there is no changing your mind, but if you are against the taking of a human life, then you must be against abortion as well, if you are intellectually honest and consistent about the evils of taking a life.As for your comments about the ritual behind the execution, that is the product not of the act but of the bureacracy of the act of execution. The bureacracy demands order and formality and a checklist like mentality behind the act. There are checklists in all bureacracies, especially one where they can be sued by the likes of the ACLU if the condemned man experiences pain in any way (regardless of how much pain that person inflicted in the course of their lives) as happend in California. You call it a ritual; I call it bureacratic necessity. Why it is not a ritual is by its very definition, there is no religious significance to having John Allen Mohammed's arms laid out in a quasi-crucifix formation; it does make it easier for the doctor to administer the drugs. Coinsidence and bureacratic necessity go further to explain why executions are committed the way they are than anything you discussed, Bob. But I know I won't change your mind on this.

  10. November 11, 2009 at 3:40 pm

    Executions of murderers do NOT bring the family members of the victim "peace". Any feelings they may have of happiness over the execution are always fleeting or counter-balanced by a deeper, more profound dissatisfaction and hollowness deep in the soul.Talk with a family member who cheered on an execution a decade or so later and you will learn they have not found peace because of the execution. Quite the opposite in fact. It does not bring them more happiness. If any peace has been found, any true, ever-lasting satisfaction or "closure" it is through the spirit of love and forgiveness, not vengeance. The death penalty is a reflection, amplification and perpetuation of humanity's most base desires and weaknesses. No good comes of it. Quite the opposite, in fact.

  11. November 11, 2009 at 4:15 pm

    Big Tent: You're messing things up again, sir.I am a Liberal.I am Pro Choice. No one I know is Pro Abortion. What this means is that I feel there are far too many abortions in this country and abortion us used far too often as birth control. However, I'm Pro Choice because I feel government has no business in a woman's body. It's her choice.But I also support the death penalty in certain cases — meaning when we no beyond a reasonable doubt that the accused is indeed guilty. However, the system is deeply flawed.So I'd encourage you to move beyond simplistic labels and have a real discussion about these complex issues.

  12. November 12, 2009 at 5:00 am

    Let's see that St. Lois take the public option and give up the Congressional Health Plan, then I will support the health care she is voting for. FOR US! NOT HER!

  13. November 12, 2009 at 5:17 am

    "Those who relish executions, will, one day, in this life or another, on some plane of existence, know what it is like to be killed by a fellow human being, or feel the pain of having a loved one killed or commit suicide. The death penalty promotes and celebrates death. It spawns suicide and it spawns murder rather than prevents it. It is barbaric, unholy and unnecessary. It is a weakness."Well said. "But for those, like Krebs, where there is no doubt, let them fry." DC. Very disconcerting as that refrain has been spouted for virtually every person who has been executed,…or released from death row upon being cleared. Like I keep saying, intellectually incurious, unfortunately.Now that Texas has executed a proven innocent man, the time has come to repeal this barbarity from the US.Capital punishment and no universal health care, just two more issues that keep us from joining the rest of the civilized world.

  14. November 12, 2009 at 5:25 am

    Hey Mohammad was put to death after being convicted in VIRGINIA not Maryland. Maryland is very liberal compared to VA and that is why they tried him in VA.Is it too much of a stretch to think that Mohammad and Malvo were Muslim Extremists AKA terrorists like this guy in Texas? I mean, he did not seem to be opposed to killing? Malvo and Mohammad had pictures and sketches of the WTC Towers burning? The man that killed the Army recruiter in AL were muslims. The pizza guys that planned the attack in PA were Muslims. Why are we told "It is obviously not terrorism" ? What do you have to do to be considered a terrorist now days, have an Alqeda membership card in your pocket?

  15. geo
    November 12, 2009 at 6:24 am

    A well timed abortion is like the destruction of project plans as opposed to destruction of a completed project, every living mother has inalienable rights, CHOICE is a big part of the pursuit of happiness.You may not like abortion, fine don't have one. Just get off this we have the right to protect the unborn… people who do not exist? Rights are only enjoyed by the living,including the mother, that 'little miracle' clump of cells in her belly do not count for squat.unless she wants it to. El Salvadore is a model, there are police who do pelvic exams looking for abortion scars! these pelvic police can testify, you can go to prison for thirty years! there's your right to life, right there…right to life ? right to punish women.

  16. November 12, 2009 at 7:04 am

    Okay, let me try this again. We all know yo uare liberal Dave. That no one questions. I am curious as to how you can state your opposition to abortion and yet sit idlly while women do something you are opposed to. What if you replaced the word 'murder' for the word 'abortion', you statement would read:I am Pro Choice. No one I know is Pro murder. What this means is that I feel there are far too many murders in this country and murder us used far too often as birth control. However, I'm Pro Choice because I feel government has no business in a woman's body. It's her choice.Well, that is what a woman does when she has a doctor pull her baby out by its feet and jams a pair of scissors into the back of its head. You think it is okay to let that stand because "its her body". Then let her do all the drugs she wants, let her prostitute herself, let her ride a motorcycle without a helmet on because the government has no business interferring with her body. As for the death penalty, as I stated on your show many years ago when Tookie Williams was executed, abortion is wrong and capital punishment is permissiable for the most evil of our society. For me, it comes down to innocence. A fetus did not ask to be born to a woman that doesn't love it enough to let it live. A baby is only born with Original Sin, if you believe that. However, John Allen Mohammed was, and Hasan is, as far from innocent as humanly possible. What happens when a dog bites its master, the State puts it down for the good of the community. Keeping that dog in a pen just isn't good enough. When a human turns on its community as Mohammed and Hasan have done, it too must be put down. Moreover, there is no acceptable punishment for the crimes Hasan has committed, short of death. Incarceration for the rest of the life of a religious zealot is not a punishment; it is a martyr's reward. So, to sum up: Abortion kills innocents; the death penalty kills the guilty.And it was an Army recruit working as a Hometown Recruiter in Arkansas (AR) that was killed by a Muslim extremist.

  17. November 12, 2009 at 7:14 am

    Geo, LIFE is the first inalienable right listed in our Declaration of Independance. Choice isn't even mentioned anywhere in the Constitution. The prenumbras of eminations of other amendments was where the concept of "choice" was created. The 3rd amendment against the quartering of soldiers is used to justify keeping the government out of a woman's body. It is a sketchy and weak argument that those justices made to allow an industry, and it is an industry, to destroy millions of potential human lives every year.There were 24 executions performed in 2008. I challenge each of you, with children, that feel it is okay for a woman to chose the life or death of the fetus in their womb to look at your children in the eye and tell them, "I am in favor of mothers, like yours, killing babies, just like you, before they were born if that's her choice."

  18. November 12, 2009 at 2:18 pm

    geo, 30 years in prison for an abortion may be going to far. I think 5-7 years is enough to teach her a lesson. Are you willing to compromise?

  19. November 12, 2009 at 3:13 pm

    compassionate one.If the woman receives 5-7 years for the abortion. How many does the father get?

  20. November 12, 2009 at 4:26 pm

    Rich — a couple things: First, I reject the definition of abortion as murder. It's a surgical procedure. I understand and respect how your religious beliefs lead you to see this in more stark terms, but I don't equate abortion with murder.And, yes, I don't like the abortion option, even though (as i told the story on the radio one afternoon) I once paid for a girlfriend's abortion. I wish there were other options. But what offends me even more is that the government thinks they have a say in this matter. I'm asking for conservatives to be consistent — if government is never the answer to anything else, why are they the answer here?Government is NOT the answer on abortion. To me, the answer lies in the far more complex challenge of getting to the nature of unwanted pregnancies and address concerns at the BEGINNING, but iof we try that, you'll accuse us of socialism. But when we cut back on government programs and support for counseling and sex ed and general economic help, there are consequences.

  21. geo
    November 12, 2009 at 4:49 pm

    LIFE is the first inalienable right listed in our Declaration of Independance.The bible says life begins with breath this is an archaic belief but has become custom.One has no rights until one is breathing,then you are good to go.Life is eternal,eternity is now,rights are limited to the livingonly they get to enjoy them. Wrong headed to curtail a woman's rights in favor of one who is not alive in the present. A few cells wiggling around a womb is not yet a person, but the mother is.

  22. geo
    November 12, 2009 at 4:56 pm

    Talking about abortion is worse than talking about sausage manufacture.We should take tender care of women in process of reproduction with out getting into the details and minutiaeof PRIVATE reproductive medical procedures.

  23. November 12, 2009 at 10:09 pm

    Dave, my beliefs are not religiously based, they are based on science. When a sperm cell fertilizes the egg, the new fetus is a genetically different being than either the mother or the father. Left to its own devices, that fetus will mature and develop into a human baby as has happened in the millions of years of homo sapiens existence. To say that baby is a lump of cells and that the abortion used to kill that baby is just a "procedure" like removing an ovarian cyst is an act of denial. You are in denial that the fetus is a human being and you wish to equivocate at what time "life" begins. I say that life begins at conception based on the genetic uniqueness of the embryo. However, I also appreciate the fact that the fetus can't survive outside the womb until around 27 weeks. I say that survival outside the womb, regardless of level of assistance provided by science, should be the mark used to determine when life begins.raincoat, since it is a woman's right to choose, the father would just get a sympathy card.And on that, having the ability to abort a baby is a terrible way for a woman to assert primacy over something. The NARAL gang tries to make abortion into a way women shake their fist at men and say, "look at me, I'm powerful! I just snuffed my child." Nothing sends a shiver up the collective spines of Americans than stories of mothers drowning their babies like Susan Smith or that crazy Yates woman in Houston. Why are women revered for snuffing their babies in the womb? And Geo, abortion is exactly like making sausage. If you can't stand the details of abortions, then perhaps that is your conscience trying to tell you it is wrong. That is what happened to the director of a Planned Parenthood facility after she saw an ultrasound guided abortion and got to watch the baby (and she called it a baby) try to dodge the probe that was inserted into the womb to kill it. It was fighting for its life inside the womb. After witnessing that, she quit. She believes that Planned Parenthood has escalated the numbers of abortions performed in order to increase profits. Planned Parenthood has become a literal merchant of death as they are now in the business of aborting for profit and not for the "reproductive health" of the women on whom they abort babies. And not one reference to God, Dave.

  24. November 13, 2009 at 5:49 am

    The soul enters the fetus in the fifth month. Bodies die and rot. Souls do not.

  25. November 13, 2009 at 6:08 am

    Supreme Court decision – you don't have to check Snopes for this one No nativity this Christmas in D.C. There will be no Nativity Scene in Washington this year! The Supreme Court has ruled that there cannot be a Nativity Scene in the United States' Capital this Christmas season. This isn't for any religious reason. They simply have not been able to find Three Wise Men in the Nation's Capitol. A search for a Virgin continues. There was no problem, however, finding enough asses to fill the stable.

  26. November 13, 2009 at 6:17 am

    Dave, I was not as opposed to abortion until we had our first little girl. You go in and get an ultrasound with your wife, and the baby is there, formed, and moving around. She responded to the stimuli of the ultrasound machine. Then when the birth happens, a wonderful transition between the womb and the air occurs. Wonderful.We were given the choice that if the baby was malformed or had some problem, we could "elect to terminate the pregnancy". The thought made me sick to my stomach and very sad. Our little girl is wonderful and bright with no problems, but we would have been there and raised a happy baby no matter the situation. Life is too precious to waste over a convenience issue. We should love unconditionally. Even with downs syndrome, even an unplanned baby. There are thousands of would be parents that would love to nurture that inconvenient baby that was destroyed by cold instruments of death.

  27. November 13, 2009 at 7:18 am

    I'm happy for you, New Tone, but I think you can predict my response.You got to CHOOSE. You didn't have to have government tell you to keep the baby. I believe the issue of choice is paramount.

  28. November 13, 2009 at 4:24 pm

    Congalton doesn't have the balls to father a child…no women he has ever been married to would let that happen. They thought the world didn't need another loser.So he becomes a gutless miserable piece of shit who rejects anything that smacks of a normal life.Go smoke your pot and think that you couldn't even be trusted to protect the lives of animals let alone a human.So to dismiss your grief and anger you hate all babies and their mothers. You waste of flesh you have nothing to offer your life will end and you have left nothing behind. So be it. Shit does need to stop stinking one day.

  29. November 13, 2009 at 4:43 pm

    Always refreshing to hear how beloved I am in Arizona.

  30. November 13, 2009 at 6:10 pm

    I would be interested to know how Dave's ex-girlfriend feels about her abortion all these years later. It's easy to forget an operation for appendicitis, to fix a broken leg or other types of operations. A women never forgets the day she destroyed their baby. People can pretend it's just a bunch of cells but it's not. It is a human life that is destroyed and no matter how many ways you pretend it's not it is killing a life.

  31. November 13, 2009 at 7:03 pm

    Anonymouse: Nice of you to assume so much, including :(1) That I have no feelings, nor thoughts about what happened back in the '70s and (2) that the woman involved must automatically feel a certain way.I can tell you without hesitation that she hasn't given it a second thought. She hated kids and any thought of them. What she felt was relief. The decision has given me more pause than her.

  32. November 13, 2009 at 8:09 pm

    Owh! Dave, why do you put up with these personal attacks? Man, these people are crude and cruel

  33. November 13, 2009 at 9:15 pm

    Wow Dave, that post from Daddy? is pretty disturbing. The person's life must be miserable to be so filled with hate. I know your former pudgy friend from Arizona was an angry person, but has he really gone this far over the edge? Is his life really that empty that he has nothing better to do than to continue to read the blog of a man that he hates so much? If this is really the state of mind of your old-friend, then we should all pray that he recognizes that he has serious anger issues and that he will seek the professional help he so desperately needs. What a pathetic, shattered life.

  34. geo
    November 14, 2009 at 12:56 am

    Daddy has a kink in his catheter tube.

  35. November 14, 2009 at 4:30 am

    Good to see that dave doesn't only kill innocent animals. His own baby is on his hit list. Pathetic fool. How can you hate a baby that much?

  36. November 14, 2009 at 8:02 am

    Thanks, Jerry, for the Anonymous post. Always good to hear from you.I'm average about 5-6 posts from Jerry every week. in the past, I've just deleted them. I think I'll share start letting them through for awhile so the rest of you can catch a glimpse into my world.Say what you will about Santa Maria Bill. But at least when he screwed up in August, he knew it and walked away. Not Jerry. Nope. He's not happy unless he's sending Anonymous posts to poison the well.So be it. Can't worry about it any more.

  37. November 14, 2009 at 6:46 pm

    Set your TiVO for thiws weekend. Go to Fox cable news channel and record and/or watch the rerun of today's Glenn Beck show. He has over 40 black conservatives on the show calling out the Jesse Jacksons, Al Sharptons and Obamas for repackaging slavery for 2009, and Obama for using "Plantation politics". You MUST NOT MISS this show! It is ground breaking…My jaw was on the floor for an hour. Trust me on this one…America is waking up!Dave and his ilk backed the wrong idiot! Even the lame stream media is turning on him now.

  38. November 14, 2009 at 6:53 pm

    OK, Jerry. I posted it, as requested.

  39. November 16, 2009 at 4:25 am

    I haven't participated here for a while. Work has recently been picking up (thanks to developments in the European economy and not here, unfortunately). And I'll admit that I have found the incessant name calling a bit boring.But that is all nothing, but nothing compared to the recent filth from Arizona.Dave, thanks for showing us some of the stuff you have to put up with. In all seriousness, those postings point clearly to a very disturbed psyche. Perhaps in a lucid moment when he isn't completely in a rage, he can seek professional help. Perhaps his family can do something. In any event, we can all hope that he stays im Arizona.

  40. November 16, 2009 at 5:17 am

    Dave,Sorry about this kook Jerry and his free time in Arizona. I would recommend alerting the authorities.Jerry, Dave may be a lot of things, but he does have a heart and a conscience too. We all make mistakes.Jerry, you on the other hand have gone off your rocker even worse than Santa Maria Bill. Get some help and a life.

  41. November 16, 2009 at 6:17 pm

    Dear FBI, and all local and federal law enforcement agencies and personnel,I am here to report a person for posting their opinion on a public blog. Can you arrest and imprison him for not agreeing with me and my 4 other friends?Thank you,Ego maniac extraordinaireDave "home town" Congalton(my wife said I could do this)

  42. November 16, 2009 at 8:01 pm

    Good morning, Jerry. I suspect you'll be hearing from the FBI and law enforcement very soon.

  43. November 18, 2009 at 3:42 pm

    I think anyone that is pro abortion should watch a sonogram of an abortion prior to making a permanent decision. Just like that abortion doctor who watched and is now anti abortion. Watch the baby's face while he/she is being "aborted". Capitol punishment is great if it is 100% verifiable the person is guilty. We need to change the appeal process though. It should not take 10 years to go through this process. Stats show that the deterrence of homicides is less with the longer appeal process. Three years or less is the most effective. Go ahead wise guy, I have the stats on my side.

  44. November 19, 2009 at 10:34 pm

    Nice to have you back Hoosier

  45. November 20, 2009 at 12:39 am

    Laws need to be passed to constrain judges on the appeals process. Appeals are supposed based on procedural flaws in the way the judge presided over the trial, not on some political whim. Appeals must be based in law, most injunctions are straight out lies that some new evidence exists. I agree that the appeals process should be limited to 3 to 5 years. DNA procedures are very effective now and with the "CSI" craze on TV, most juries not only expect to see DNA evidence but demand it in order to convict. Guilt is almost absolute on cases going to trial these days. Conversely, it is amazing that guys like some on this blog wail against the death penalty as barbaric and ritualized murder, and yet call abortion just a woman's choice. I base my opposition to abortion and support fo rhte death penalty on the innocence of those involved: a fetus is absolutely innocent of any crime other than being conceived in the womb of a woman that views it as a mass of tissue, those that commit multiple murders or other barbaric crimes are absolutely guilty and must pay the ultimate price for their crimes.

  46. November 20, 2009 at 5:12 pm

    10 wonderful days without politics or work. Back to reality now. However, will be gone again next week.

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