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I really enjoyed our discussion Thursday about the Nancy Pelosi plane controversy. We had plenty of calls from both critics and defenders.

I still thinki Hannity, Gingrich and the rest of the conservatives are merely trying to embarrass the new Speaker. She’s made it clear that she is willing to fly commercial. The House sergeant-at-arms has made it clear that HE was the one who requested the larger plane, not her.

I like Al from Nipomo’s argument that if Pelosi were in her home district in a time of a crisis, we would want her to get back to DC as quickly as possible and not have to worry about stopping to refuel.

But what do you think? Here’s the latest update on the issue. Feel free to weight in.

“For most of the past five weeks, House Republicans could do little else but watch as majority Democrats passed major legislation without giving them a chance to propose changes or offer alternatives. So when they finally got a chance Thursday to air pent-up frustrations over how Democrats were running things, the Republicans decided to make some noise — and how. They aimed high, all the way to House Speaker Nancy Pelosi

Reports swirled on Capitol Hill that she had requested a bigger, swankier government airplane than her Republican predecessor had used for trips back to her home district when Congress isn’t meeting.

For Republicans, feeling muzzled and still blue over losing control of the House, the irony was too good to ignore.

A waste of the taxpayers’ money, some said, claiming her trips would cost $15 million a year if she used planes such as the military version of the Boeing 757-200. In its commercial configuration the 757-200 usually seats 175-190 passengers.

Pelosi should lead by example, argued others, because a bigger plane consumes more fuel and contributes more to the global warming she expresses concern about.

“The jet that Pelosi has produces 10,000 pounds of carbon dioxide an hour, far more than the previous speaker used,” said Rep. Patrick McHenry (news, bio, voting record), R-N.C. Pelosi’s predecessor was Rep. Dennis Hastert, R-Ill.

“By commandeering a huge government plane for her personal transport to California, this is totally contradictory to the alarm bells we heard her ringing in the Science Committee just a few hours ago,” Rep. Dana Rohrabacher (news, bio, voting record), R-Calif., said.

Amid the hubbub, House Sergeant-at-Arms Bill Livingood, who is charged with the speaker’s security, issued a statement saying it actually was he, not Pelosi, who had requested that the military provide the larger plane so Pelosi could fly nonstop to the West Coast.

After the Sept. 11, 2001, terrorist attacks, the Pentagon agreed to provide the House speaker, who is second in the line of presidential succession behind the vice president, with a military plane for added security during trips home. Hastert flew in a commuter-size Air Force jet.

“The fact that Speaker Pelosi lives in California compelled me to request an aircraft that is capable of making nonstop flights for security purposes, unless such an aircraft is unavailable,” Livingood said in a statement. “I regret that an issue that is exclusively considered and decided in a security context has evolved into a political issue.”

The Pentagon informed Pelosi’s staff this week that she would get a plane, based on availability, and that nonstop service could not be guaranteed.

Pelosi said Thursday that she’d be happy to fly commercial.

“We never asked for a larger plane. This is a myth that (the Republicans) are talking about on the floor,” she said. “They have nothing to say to the American people about the war, the economy, global warming and the rest. So they have this game they’re playing.”

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  1. JerryDinAZ
    February 9, 2007 at 3:38 pm

    NAMBLA NANCY WANTS A FLYING “LINCOLN BEDROOM”

    THE PLANE WILL RENAMED “NANCY ONE”!

    NAMBLA NANCY PELOSI SAID SHE MUST HAVE A BEDROOM ON BOARD, AND THAT THE PLANE MUST BE BIGGER THAN THE ONE HASTERT FLEW SO SHE COULD TAKE FAMILY, FRIENDS, AND MAJOR DONORS AND SUPPORTERS ON TRIPS WITH HER!

    PELOSI SPECIFICALLY DEMANDED ACCESS TO THE C-32, WHICH SEATS 45 AND HAS A STATEROOM FOR THE PRIMARY PASSENGER, A CONFERENCE FACILITY, AN ENTERTAINMENT SYSTEM AND THREE CONVERTIBLE BEDS.

    AFTER FURTHER REVIEW NAMBLA NANCY CHANGED HER DEMAND TO THE C-40 JET, WHICH IS DESCRIBED BY THE AIR FORCE AS AN “OFFICE IN THE SKY.” DERIVED FROM THE BOEING 737-700C, IT CAN SEAT UP TO 120 PASSENGERS AND HAS BEDS AND TWO GALLEYS.

    PELOSI’S OWN SPOKESMAN BRENDAN DALY ACKNOWLEDGED THAT THE SPEAKER HAS ASKED IF FAMILY AND FRIENDS CAN FLY WITH HER ON BUSINESS TRAVEL.

    SHE ALSO SAID THAT SHE ONLY WANTED – AS A FEMALE SPEAKER OF THE HOUSE – WHAT ANY MALE SPEAKER OF THE HOUSE HAS HAD.

    YET HASTERT AND MOST WASHINGTON OFFICIALS DO NOT FLY CROSS-COUNTRY WITH A BEDROOM.

    ACCORDING TO THE AIR FORCE, AT LEAST 21 PEOPLE CAN REQUEST THE USE OF THE C-40S, AND THERE ARE ONLY FOUR OF THE AIRCRAFT AVAILABLE. POTENTIAL USERS INCLUDE THE CHAIRMAN OF THE JOINT CHIEFS OF STAFF AND THE CABINET SECRETARIES. THE PLANES ARE ALSO USED TO FLY CONGRESSIONAL DELEGATIONS TO MILITARY THEATERS.

    HE WENT ON TO SAY THAT PELOSI’S DESIRE FOR A LARGE TRANSPORT “AN EXTRAVAGANCE OF POWER THAT THE TAXPAYERS WON’T SWALLOW.”

    SOME REPUBLICANS HAVE ARGUED THAT PELOSI COULD USE THE LARGER PLANE TO OFFER TRIPS TO TOP POLITICAL DONORS AS A REWARD FOR THEIR CONTRIBUTIONS. THE GUIDELINES PROVIDED BY THE PENTAGON SAY FAMILY MEMBERS COULD ACCOMPANY PELOSI, PROVIDED THEY PAY THE GOVERNMENT COACH FARE. THE PLANE COULD NOT BE USED FOR TRAVEL TO POLITICAL EVENTS.

    IT IS NOW VITALLY IMPORTANT WE SEE WHAT THE “SPECIFIC” REQUEST WAS…WILL THE SPEAKER RELEASE THOSE DOCUMENTS?

    WE ALL DOUBT THAT…TYPICAL LIMOUSINE LIBERAL ABUSING POWER AND THEN BLAMING THE RIGHT!

    NAMBLA NANCY IS ALREADY A DISGRACE TO THE OFFICE! AND IT’S JUST HER FIRST MONTH! OH! THIS IS GONNA BE GREAT!

  2. Rich from Paso
    February 9, 2007 at 7:09 pm

    I’m not saying that Nancy Pelosi should fly commercial and I don’t think anyone is. What troubles me is this false piety that she is showing by suggesting that she wants to fly commercial even though someone on her staff made the request for the $300,000 per trip 757. If she flies once a month to San Fran, she would rake up a $36 million tab… and she is NOT the president. Hastert didn’t cost that much. If all you need is family and staff to go with you, take the G-5 and fly non-stop. I also don’t understand why she can’t take 45 minutes out of her flight time for a refueling stop at scenic McConnell AFB in Wichita, KS or Whiteman AFB (home of the B-2 bomber) in Missouri or Petersen AFB in Colorado Springs, CO in order to have a 737 that is larger than a G-5 but more economical than a 757.

    I think Jerry might be on to something with the desire to use the 757 as a political perk to donors to the DNC. I also think that the reason that she would want to have a G-5 or a 757 is so she wouldn’t have to stop in “fly-over coutnry” in the red states of Kansas or Missouri or Colorado (I know that the latter two aren’t all that red these days). That would be typical of a “limosine liberal”. Finally, if in fact there is a national emergency, the only time she would have a decision-making role is if both the president or the vice-president were both whacked and she was now teh first woman president. Even if that were to happen, Condi Rice and SecDef Gates, both members of the National Command Authority, would be able to hold down the fort until she made it back to Washington. So why the desire to fly non-stop? It’s not as if they don’t have state-of-the-art communications on every one of those planes.

    I think Jerry may be right on this one.

  3. Brett
    February 9, 2007 at 9:31 pm

    Jerry, you are such a worthless pile. It’s unfortunate that there are not any consequences to your continuing insults you throw at people you disagree with. Your constant mispellings of peoples names and biting name calling is more than just childish it shows a of intelligence.

    I’d love to hear you call Barack Obama an OREO to his face or call Nancy Pelosi Nambla Nancy to her face.

    Jerry you are just a chicken shit coward and you know it.

  4. golfingslo
    February 9, 2007 at 11:04 pm

    This is very Shakespearian in that it is “Much ado about nothing”. Why waste time and energy over it. The Dems won, they get there day. When the Repubs win again, they will get there day. NOT ONE THING HAS CHANGED IN WASHINGTON. Or ever will. Washington panders to the extremes and does nothing for the middle. So Bob and Jerry, either one of you is right or wrong, you are only part of the dividers that keep the current Washington structure alive. Keep up the good work guys the nation is almost divided 50 50.

  5. Anonymous
    February 9, 2007 at 11:31 pm

    load that plane up with fuel and let Mrs Pelosi do her thing. $300,000 round trip is nothing.
    heck jerry probably spends that much a year on adult diapers

  6. Rich from Paso
    February 10, 2007 at 4:39 am

    I forgot to mention this in my orignial post, sohere goes:

    How many sets of body armor could Nancy Pelosi buy with the $170K per trip she would save by taking the G-5? How many uparmored humvees could she buy with that money? She complains about the rising debt but she has no problem running it up to the tune of $170K a trip. How many children with out medical insurance could get that insurance with the $170K per trip?

    There. Got that off my chest.

  7. JerryDinAZ
    February 10, 2007 at 5:09 am

    RICH,
    YOU SHOULD KNOW BETTER! AS WITH ALL LIMOUSINE LIBERALS THEY CARE ONLY ABOUT THEMSELVES AND COUNT ON THE GOVERNMENT TO DO FOR THE LITTLE POOR GRUNTS!

    NANCY IS FOR BORDER CONTROL YET HER WINERY IS ONE OF THE LARGEST EMPLOYERS OF ILLEGAL ALIENS (LAW BREAKING MEXICANS) IN THE NAPA VALLEY.

    NANCY IS FOR UNIONS AND PROTECTING WORKERS BUT HER HOTEL IN NAPA EMPLOYS LAW BREAKING MEXICANS AS HOUSEKEEPERS.

    SEE? NAMBLA NANCY TAKES CARE OF HERSELF FIRST AND THE DREGS GO TO THE LOW LIFERS!

    AS IT IS WITH THIS PLANE ISSUE. MANY HIGH RANKING GOVERNMENT OFFICIALS THAT CAN USE PRIVATE MILITARY JETS FLY COMMERCIAL BECAUSE THEY HAVE A CONSCIENCE. IN NANCY’S CASE SHE HAS NO MORAL COMPASS…NO SOUL…NO CONSCIENCE, SO SHE HELPS HERSELF TO THE PRIVATE SECTOR TROUGH AND THE TAX TROUGH AS SHE FIT FOR HER BEST INTERESTS!

    AND SHE STEPS ON WHOMEVER SHE NEEDS TO ALONG THE WAY TO MEETING HER OWN NEEDS FIRST.

    BODY ARMOUR? HUMVEES? RICH! YOU ARE SO SILLY! NAMBLA NANCY AND THE REST OF LEFTY LIBERAL SECULAR PROGRESSIVES COULD CARE LESS ABOUT THE BRAVE MAN AND WOMEN IN OUR MILITARY!

    BUT THEN THAT IS ANOTHER TOPIC FOR ANOTHER TIME.

  8. Anonymous
    February 10, 2007 at 6:42 am

    It’s only fair to give Nancy something she’d like to fly….a BROOM

  9. Bob from San Luis
    February 10, 2007 at 8:39 am

    Of course JerryD can blissfully ignore that Speaker Pelosi did not ask for the plane, the House Sergeant At Arms made the request. As for Speaker Pelosi asking about her family and friends being able to fly with her; isn’t logical for a law maker to ask what the rules are before doing something that could be wrong? Or would you prefer for her to act like the Republicans for the last 12 years and simply do as she pleases and then make some lame excuse if or when she got caught? Once again Jerry, irony is totally lost on you by your accusing “the limousine liberals” of feeding at the public trough, while there are still Republicans being prosecuted for the laws that were broke during the last few sessions of Congress.

    Rich: Air Force One operates at $56,800. per hour according to Air Force estimates; how many soldiers and Marines could have upgraded body armor for each hour the President flies around? Every trip President Bush takes from Washington to Crawford is about 4 hours each way, so $56,800. x 4 hours = $227,200. That’s half a million dollars for each round trip. Who is being more wasteful? Speaker Pelosi is a Congresswoman, meaning that she represents a district which is her home base; she cannot stay in Washington all of the time, that restricts her constituents ability to talk to her, to have meetings, etc. The President on the other hand, has no real need to travel to Crawford; he does that mainly for down time, vacations and such. Are his trips wasteful?, Rich, Jerry? What about the Vice-President and his famous hunting trips? How much to operate Air Force Two per hour?
    Admit it guys, this is simply sour grapes.

  10. Bob from San Luis
    February 10, 2007 at 9:00 am

    Apparently not all of the Republicans in Congress agree with this dust up about the Speaker:

    Some Republicans were put off by the flight fight. “This is a bunch of baloney,” said Representative Ray LaHood, Republican of Illinois, who said he had flown on Mr. Hastert’s military plane.

    “Next week,” Representative Jeff Flake, Republican of Arizona, said, “we are going to steal their mascot and short-sheet their beds.”

    Those quotes were from a NY Times article.

  11. Anonymous
    February 10, 2007 at 5:01 pm

    “Jerry you are just a chicken shit coward and you know it.”
    quote of the day

  12. Puncho
    February 10, 2007 at 5:04 pm

    Hastert Used Military Aircraft To Fly Foley Page Scandal Figure To Washington

  13. Rich from Paso
    February 10, 2007 at 6:24 pm

    No Bob, it is not sour grapes. It is hypocracy from a woman that rode to the speakership on a platform of “change”. It is status quo in operation. Furthermore, neither Bush nor Cheney campaigned on our military not having the right equipment to go to war; Pelosi and the Democrats did. As a matter of fact, the largest budget increase for any Federal Department went to Defense. So, The Democrats campaign on change and do exactly what they claim the Republicans were doing. So, yes, I am very comfortable calling Pelosi on her hypocracy. Jerry is right: Her restaurants are all non-union, as are her agricultural holdings, she employs illegal aliens and now, after creating yet aznother superfluous congressional committee to examine “global warming” she is all too willing to increase her carbon footprint just so she doesn’t have to land in a red state.

    Honestly, In gave no problem with Pelosi getting the use of a jet to fly atround. I do have a problem with someone that lamented the last 12 years as some great scourge on American and then proceeds to do exactly the same things. She’s a hypocrite as are the rest of them all.

  14. rob in los osos
    February 10, 2007 at 6:30 pm

    you conservadorks are so pathetically grasping at straws. You lost in november, get used to it. That said, if you are interested in FACTS (although I know you have no use for them) here is a link to a story that should shed a little light:
    http://abclocal.go.com/kgo/story?section=politics&id=4804677

    the gist of the article:

    -the non-union labor at Speaker Pelosi’s winery is actually paid MORE than the prevailing union wage, and, the napa valley wine industry is almost exclusively NON union – it would be impractical for her winery to employ union workers;

    “Monsignor John Brenkle, St. Helena Catholic Church: “So I know exactly what his pay scale is.”

    And Monsignor Brenkle says the Pelosis pay a $1.25 an hour more than workers at Napa’s biggest union winery.

    Monsignor John Brenkle: “I don’t think she has the possibility of finding other union workers here in the valley.”

    Of the more than 300 vineyards, fewer than four are union, and most of the farm workers in the Napa Valley get paid better. St. Helena is a town rich with wine and the money that it has generated. “

    -you don’t hire a union to work. if the employees want to join a union, they are free to do so. her employees apparently don’t want to unionize.

    “Marc Grossman, United Farm Workers Union: “It is patently illegal for any grower to even discuss a union contract, which is the only way you can supply union workers, without the workers first having voted in a state conducted secret ballot election.”

    you know, it took me about two minutes to find the truth about this. Maybe you conservacrats should look into fact checking?

    I searched for ANYthing about her hiring illegal aliens. There is NOTHING. All the articles I found were on right wing blogs, and all they do is try to link ‘non-union’ to ‘undocumented’ to ‘illegal’. Not one documented fact anywhere.
    Hmmm, forging tenuous links between seemingly disconnected facts – where have I heard of this happening before?

    I won’t even get into the plane issue – we ALL know that its a non-issue. The Seargent-at- arms has said that he is the one who requested that the flight be non-stop. As Bob said, Speaker Pelosi was checking on the rules before she violated them, with regards to her family flying with her.
    Is this all you got?

    Oh, btw Jerry. Your obsession with NAMBLA is really telling.

  15. rob in los osos
    February 10, 2007 at 6:32 pm

    sorry, that link is
    http://abclocal.go.com/kgo/
    story?section=politics&id=4804677

  16. Rich from Paso
    February 10, 2007 at 6:57 pm

    God, this topic is SOOO BORING!! I am forcing myself to event attempt to care about this stupid plane thing. I would love a good Irq argument right now.

  17. rob in los osos
    February 10, 2007 at 7:28 pm

    okay rich, here ya go:

    the blog righterthanyousothereforeyouareleft.com reports that nancy pelosi hired illegal iraqi-alien underage sex slaves to peel grapes from her non-union winery, and used them to entertain her on her cross-country ‘mile-high sexcapades’ (why else would she need a bedroom?). The Iraqi refugees reportedly were so overcome with their newfound freedom that they wanted to thank ANY politician and were caught up in her web of lies and deceit. Right thinking republican lawmakers were justifiably outraged.

    “This is a typical democrat tactic – utilize the fruits of hard won republican victories and twist them to their own twisted twistiness” said Republican representative Haywood Jablomie (R, kansas), a member of the house select committee on naughty bits and unmentionables. “the incredible waste and expenditure of transcontinental nonstop grape peeling clearly illustrates the Democrats tax and spend philosophy”
    Speaker Pelosi was in Arizona investigating the recent rash of NAMBLA chapters springing up in and around the Phoenix metropolitan area, and was unavailable for comment.

  18. Rich from Paso
    February 10, 2007 at 8:00 pm

    HAHAHA That’s funny! Did you know that Haywood Jablomie defeated Democrat Phil McCracken in order to take that seat. What tipped the scale for McCracken was when Haywood’s brother, William Ulysses Jablomie (or Will U. Jablomie, as he is known to his friends), got caught with his pants down.

  19. rob in los osos
    February 10, 2007 at 8:51 pm

    another funny thing

    (those easily offended should stop here)

    The Washingpost Times Picayune reports:

    Republican Representative Mike Hunt criticized Speaker Pelosi and members of her staff for bumping into him in Congress. Mrs Pelosi responded, “I never touched Mike
    Hunt, I’ve never been anywhere near Mike Hunt, and to my knowledge no one on my staff has even seen Mike Hunt.”

    Senior Hunt staffer Michael Litoris fired back that Mrs Pelosi’s memory is foggy at best.

    “What the hell does Mike Litoris know?” Speaker Pelosi responded. “Mike Litoris never sees the light of day.”
    Speaker Pelosi’s chief handmaiden Mike Oxbig adds ” I never knew there were so many Mikes in one town.”

  20. Anonymous
    February 10, 2007 at 9:14 pm

    Livingood has a rational statement about the situation. It is regretable that some republicans waste our time trying to evoke emotional responses from the American public over nothing. When are they going to start working on real issues that truly impact Americans. Probably never – we don’t have many problem solvers in Washington anymore.

  21. Rich from Paso
    February 10, 2007 at 11:44 pm

    Rob, you’re funny. How about this story: Nancy Pelosi was seen out with Herk Litoris all over town. Herk Litoris, as you well know, is Mike Litoris’ older brother. She was seen giving Herk Litoris a massage on a beach in Florida not to long ago for all to see. This fueled rumors that Nancy and Herk Litoris were more than “just friends” with each other. Nancy’s husband was upset that he was not invited to massage Herk Litoris since Mr. Pelosi thinks he’s pretty good at it. Naturally, this relationship she has with Herk Litoris is putting Mike Litoris in an uncomfortable position since Mike Litoris works for Mike Hunt, who is a rival with Pelosi as you Rob reported earlier. How’s that one?

  22. rob in los osos
    February 11, 2007 at 2:06 am

    Hey Rich.
    Your ability to dig deep into the investigation yields many interesting facts. Good job as usual. Here’s some other interesting stuff I found:

    Apparently there’s alot more to this airplane story. Washington insider Ken Tankerous reports in his daily blog:

    ‘One of the main points of the private plane issue is who else gets to fly on these planes, and this has led to some confusion.
    Both Speaker Pelosi and former speaker Dennis Hastert have senior staffers with, get this, very similar names. Apparently Hubert Jass is speaker Pelosi’s undersecretary, while Houston Jass is Mr Hunts’ chauffer. They both go by the nickname ‘Hugh’ Both Mr. Jass’ typically accompany their respective bosses when they travel.
    “Mr Hastert apparently was able to get his Hugh Jass on his private jet, but apparently I wont be able to get my Hugh Jass on my private airplane. I mean, his Hugh Jass is trivial compared to my Hugh Jass. The question becomes, why is his Hugh Jass more important than mine?” She continued. “Hugh Jass has been with me for many years. I have come to rely on my Hugh Jass for support. I couldn’t imagine travelling without it, er, him.”

    When Speaker Pelosi’s Hugh Jass was reached for comment, he added “we’re inseperable – you could almost say we’re joined at the hip. I can’t imagine us being apart for any length of time – I mean how would she function?”

  23. Rich from Paso
    February 11, 2007 at 3:00 am

    Rob, you are really in the know. I didn’t realize that you were so well connected to know about both the Hugh Jasses of Pelosi and Haster. I mean, of course the Hugh Jass of Hastert can’t be missed. True story here, but my brother got to meet Denny Hastert who was with his Hugh Jass, at the Vice-President’s Christmas party. He held the door for both Haster and his Hugh Jass. It took his Hugh Jass several moments to get through the door. Hastert said that always happens when his Hugh Jass and him try to go through the door together. But after all, he is such a large looming figure in Washington politics. But the Hugh Jass of Pelosi I wasn’t aware of.

    Thanks for the complement. I do a a lot of research on Google. I Googled Houston Jass, because his name sounded familiar and I learned that Houston Jass is married to Ida Jass. Ida Jass was a big name in show business many years ago under her maiden name Ida Hough, where she was big on Broadway in the late ’80s. That was before lewd photos of Ida Hough circulated around the tabloids where Ida Hough was caught on nude beach with Yuri Normus, the Ambassador from Ukraine. There was a link below the story on Ida Hough. It was about the wedding of Yudi Normus, the sister of Yuri Normus, and Hubert Jass. So there you go, Yudi Normus-Jass is the wife of Hubert Jass. This is like “six degrees of Kevin Bacon” only more fun.

  24. Bob from San Luis
    February 11, 2007 at 4:10 am

    Rich, Rob, good job of lightening things up. Thank you for the smiles 🙂 All we need now is Hervé Villechaize pointing up at the sky with his famous: “De plane, de plane”……

  25. Dave Congalton
    February 11, 2007 at 5:18 am

    This is from “U.S. News” Interesting.

    One of the lesser-known aspects of the “Air Pelosi” controversy is the degree to which the fuss is payback for the House speaker’s decision to hold legislators to a five-day workweek instead of the three- or four-day schedule adopted by the Republicans in the past.

    Nancy Pelosi has been struggling to explain her need for a big Air Force jet to fly nonstop to her home district in San Francisco. She says she is only following the policy of her predecessor, Republican Dennis Hastert of Illinois, who flew home regularly on government aircraft for security reasons.

    Pelosi says she needs a bigger government jet than Hastert did because she has a lot farther to go, and, besides, the security requirement was imposed by the House sergeant at arms. Otherwise, she says, she’d fly commercial.

    But GOP insiders say the issue has a lot to do with Pelosi’s work-week requirements, which many legislators consider a PR stunt that imposes a real burden on them getting home to be with their families and constituents. That said, the aircraft fuss has become “an irresistible target” for the GOP legislators, says a Republican insider.

  26. Anonymous
    February 11, 2007 at 5:28 am

    let marilyn hijack pelosi’s plane and fly it into jerrys house.

    america wins!

  27. JerryDinAZ
    February 11, 2007 at 3:32 pm

    THAT IS 100% BS DAVE!
    NAMBLA NANCY GOT HER CRONIE ( SEARGENT AT ARMS) IN CONGRESS TO DO HER DIRTY WORK FOR HER…SHE IS A DISGRACE TO THE OFFICE AND NEW POLLS SHOW AMERICA HAS NO CONFIDENCE IN ABILITY TO BE PRESIDENT SHOULD THAT NEED ARISE!

    TODAY ON THE LEFTY LIBERAL MEET THE PRESS TIM RUSSERT SHOWED THE INFO ON THE PLANE THAT HASTERT FLEW IN THAT HAS 12 SEATS…IT’S SAFE RANGE IS 4000+ MILES! COAST-TO-COAST IS NO PROBLEM!

    NAMBLA NANCY JUST WANTS A BEDROOM SO SHE CAN RECOVER FROM HER 4 FACE LIFTS AND CONSTANT BOTOX INJECTIONS WHILE RUBBING COCO BUTTER ON HER FANS AND SUPPORTERS SO SHE CAN GREASE HER WON GEARS FOR HER THIRSTY POWER GRAB!

    NAMBLA NANCY IS A SCAM ARTIST AND AMERICA IS SEEING THROUGH HER “SAN FRANCISCO VALUES” IN HER SECOND MONTH IN OFFICE!

    SHE IS A DISGRACE TO HER PARTY…TO HER GENDER, TO THE AMERICAN PEOPLE, AND TO ANY DECENT PERSON OF MORALS AND REAL TRADITIONAL AMERICAN VALUES!

    SHE IS DIGGING HER OWN PIT OF DISHONESTY AND POWER…WE JUST GET TO WATCH IT ALL, LAUGHING ALL THE WAY TO 08′!

    BTW LIBBIES? DID YOU SEE THE STORY ON NBC NIGHTLY NEWS? THE SEGMENT WAS CALLED “IS OBAMA BLACK ENOUGH?”

    HAHAHAHAHA! 2 FACED BIGOTS! THERE IS NO DOUBT THAT NBC HAS MOVED ALL THE WAY TO SORROS LEFT POSITION YET EVEN THEY HAVE THE AUDACITY TO ASK IF MR. B. “HUSSEIN” OBAMA IS BLACK ENOUGH!

    OH THIS IS GONNA BE A GREAT 2 YEARS!

  28. JerryDinAZ
    February 11, 2007 at 3:36 pm

    I ACCEPT THE MEETING WITH MARILYN…ANY PLACE, ANY TIME, ANY CIRCUMSTANCE!

    JUST BE SURE TO HAVE THE PRESS THERE!

    WE ARE GOING TO EXPOSE A TRAITOR!

  29. Anonymous
    February 11, 2007 at 7:32 pm

    you guys are all a bunch of idiots. Stop watching fox news and get a life.

  30. Bob from San Luis
    February 11, 2007 at 8:05 pm

    To the last anonymous commentator: I would assume that you mostly mean Jerrydinaz when you say to stop watching Faux News; here’s a flash for you, Jerry doesn’t have the sense to be embarrassed by his comments. The further out there he gets, the more “points” he scores in his own fantasy world. This is classic troll behavior, but Jerry cannot accept that he is a troll. Sad really.

    JerryD: How is it that a government employee (the House Sergeant At Arms) can be a cronie? Is he not the same Sergeant At Arms that served under Dennis Hastert? Or is it simply too much for anyone to expect you to understand how our government works?

  31. Anonymous
    February 11, 2007 at 11:22 pm

    jerry the blog troll is a pathetic loser.

  32. Anonymous
    February 12, 2007 at 1:58 am

    In regards to flying…an interesting piece passed on from a family pilot who received this from a fellow pilot:

    Pilots view of Presidents…

    I flew four Presidential support missions in the C-141 out of Dover AFB, DE, two for President Johnson and two for President Nixon. Johnson was a first class jerk and on the two occasions I flew for him, if the Secret Service and their Liaison in the Pentagon hadn’t intervened, we would have had to stay on the airplane for hours while he (Johnson) was off somewhere.

    Nixon never required that and the four (4) stops we made with him he was cordial to the Secret Service and to me and my crew. Denny Keast: “We had a neighbor when I lived in DC who was part of the secret service presidential detail for many years. His stories of Kennedy and Johnson were the same as those I heard from the guys who flew the presidents’ plane.”
    Yes, Kennedy did have Marilyn Monroe flown in for secret “dates,” and LBJ was a ty pical Texas “good ole boy” womanizer. Nixon, Bush 41, and Carter never cheated on their wives. Clinton cheated, but couldn’t match Kennedy or LBJ in style or variety.

    The information below is accurate: The elder Bush and current president Bush make it a point to thank and take care of the air crews who fly them around.
    When the president flies, there are several planes that also go; one carries the armored limo, another, the security detail, plus usually a press aircraft. Both Bush’s made it a point to stay home on holidays, so the Air
    Force and security people could have a day with their families.

    WHAT WAS:
    Hillary Clinton was arrogant and orally abusive to her security detail. She forbade her daughter, Chelsea, from exchanging pleasantries with them. Sometimes Chelsea, miffed at her mother’s obvious conceit and mean
    spiritedness ignored her demands and exchanged pleasantries regardless, but never in her mother’s presence. Chelsea really was a nice, kindhearted, and lovely young lady. The consensus opinion was that Chelsea loved her Mom, but did not like her. Hillary Clinton was continuously rude and abrasive to those who were charged to protect her life. Her security detail dutifully did their job, as professionals should, but they all loathed her and wanted to be on a different detail. Hillary Clinton was despised by the Secret Service as a whole.

    Former President Bill Clinton was much more amiable than his wife. Often the Secret Service would cringe at the verbal attacks Hillary would use against her husband. They were embarrassed for his sake by the manner and frequency in which she verbally insulted him, sometimes in the presence of the Secret Service, and sometimes behind closed doors. Even behind closed doors Hillary Clinton would scream and holler so loudly that everyone could hear what she was saying.

    Many felt sorry for President Cl inton and most wondered why he tolerated it instead of just divorcing his “attack dog” wife. It was crystal clear that the Clinton’s neither liked nor respected each other and this was true long before the Monica Lewinsky scandal. Theirs was genuinely a “Marriage of Convenience.”

    Chelsea was much closer to her father than her mother, even after the Lewinsky scandal, which hurt her gravely. Bill Clinton did in fact have charisma, and occasionally would smile at or shake hands with his security detail. Still, he always displayed an obvious air of superiority towards them. His security detail uniformly believed him to be disingenuous, false, and that he did nothing without a motive that in some way would enhance his image and political career. He was polite, but not kind. They did not particularly like him and nobody trusted him.

    WHAT COULD HAVE BEEN:
    Al Gore was the male version of Hillary Clinton. They were more friendly toward each other than either of them were towards former President Clinton.
    They were not intimate, so please don’t read that in. They were very close in a political way. Tipper Gore was generally nice and pleasant. She initially liked Hillary but soon after the election she had her “pegged” and no longer liked her or associated with her except for events that were politically obligatory. Al Gore was far more left wing than Bill Clinton. Al Gore resented Bill Clinton and thought he was too “centrist.” He despised all Republicans. His hatred was bitter and this was long before he announced for the Presidency. This hatred was something that he and Hillary had in common. They often said as much, even in the presence of their security detail. Neither of them trusted Bill Clinton and, the Secret Service opined, neither of them even liked Bill Clinton. Bill Clinton did have some good qualities, whereas Al Gore and Hillary had none, in the view of their security details. Al G ore, like Hillary, was very rude and arrogant toward his security detail. He was extremely unappreciative and would not hesitate to scold them in the presence of their peers for minor details over which they had no control. Al Gore also looked down on them, as they finally observed and learned with certainty on one occasion. Al got angry at his offspring and pointed at his security detail and said, “Do you want to grow up and be like them?”

    Word of this insult by the former Vice-President quickly spread and he became as disliked by the Secret Service as Hillary. Most of them prayed Al Gore would not be elected President, and they really did have private celebrations in a few of their homes after President Bush won. This was not necessarily to celebrate President Bush’s election, but to celebrate Al Gore’s defeat.

    WHAT IS:
    Everyone in the Secret Service wants to be on First Lady Laura Bush’s detail. Without exception, they conce de that she is perhaps the nicest and most kind person they have ever had the privilege of serving. Where Hillary patently refused to allow her picture to be taken with her security detail, Laura Bush doesn’t even have to be asked, she offers. She doesn’t just shake their hand and say, “Thank you.” Very often, she will give members of her detail a kindhearted hug to express her appreciation. There is nothing false about her. This is her genuine nature. Her security detail considers her to be a “breath of fresh air.” They joke that comparing Laura Bush with Hillary Clinton is like comparing “Mother Teresa” with the “Wicked Witch of the North.”

    Likewise, the Secret Service considers President Bush to be a gem of a man to work for. He always treats them with genuine respect and he always trusts and listens to their expert advice. They really like the Crawford, Texas detail. Every time the president goes to Crawford he has a Bar-B-Q for his security detail and he he lps serve their meals. He sits with them, eats with them, and talks with them. He knows each of them by their first name, and calls them by their first name as a show of affection. He always asks about their family, the names of which he always remembers. They believe that he is deeply and genuinely appreciative of their service. They could not like, love, or respect anyone more than President Bush. Most of them did
    not know they would feel this way, until they had an opportunity to work for him and learn that his manner was genuine and consistent. It has never changed since he began his Presidency. He always treats them with the utmost respect, kindness, and compassion.

    You may want to pass this on. It is important for Americans to have a true inside understanding of their President.

  33. Anonymous
    February 12, 2007 at 2:52 am

    “…..You may want to pass this on. It is important for Americans to have a true inside understanding of their President.”

    Hmmm, if you believe the passage you just read you probably believe Iraq hid all their WMD’s in Syria and that Bush administration didn’t lie to the American public to gain support for attacking Iraq.

  34. Marilyn
    February 12, 2007 at 2:58 am

    Bush may be a nice guy to those he needs and to his close circle, but he surely is not a FIT president. It would be nice to have all positive qualities in any president. The fact that Hilary is a first-class conceited tyrant in no way justifies what Bush and his marauding band are doing across the globe.

    THAT should be the focus. Have you guys ever thought that George W. Bush may have a self-esteem problem because of his lifestyle. He is the “prodigal son” in his family. It is also apparent that Laura Bush is an extremely nice and gentle person. You could see that in the way she talks but, she also strikes me as a woman who has been emotionally abused for a long time and a codependent. My two cents. But, hey, what do I know? I only work with people like that on a daily basis.

  35. Anonymous
    February 12, 2007 at 4:32 am

    marilyn…and you are just plain WIERD…..

  36. Rich from Paso
    February 12, 2007 at 5:21 am

    Some quick hits and I’m out…

    Jerry: Bob is right, the Sergeant of Arms is not a cronie. Wikipedia say that the guy currently holding the job has been there for 31 years. Unless you are willing to take a short that a Carter appointee is somehow a policial hack for Pelosi (a stretch) then you just need to let this issue die.

    Anon1: I have spoken to Marines that were on the Presidental detail and they confirm most of what you say about the Clintons and the Bush families. There was an unspoken rule among the Marines serving at the White House that Clinton was NOT to be saluted because of his draft dodging, but the one I spoke to did render the respect to Clinton because he was the Commander-In-Chief and deserved taht respect.

    Anon2: I might give your point credence if I didn’t know the affor mentioned Marine. Knowing what I know and who I know, YOU are the one grasping for reasons to hate Bush.

    Marilyn: You are just pathetic. You sound like you are projecting your train wreck of a life on an obviously happy Laura Bush. You don’t know your ass from a whole in the wall. Get a life.

    ‘Night ya’ll.

  37. rob in los osos
    February 12, 2007 at 5:45 am

    gee, thats soooo eye opening. Thanks just all to pieces to JERRY and anonymouse. And what did we learn from these postings?

    republicans=nice guys
    democrats=jerks

    thank goodness we have people like JERRY and anon to provide us with these completely unbiased, made up and un-checkable ‘facts’ You guys are a true credit to, well, nothing and no one.

  38. JerryDinAZ
    February 12, 2007 at 3:09 pm

    MARILYN,
    YOUR “PTSD” (POST TRAUMATIC STRESS DISORDER) IS CLEARLY A RESULT OF GROWING UP IN THE MUSLIM CULTURE.
    DON’T PROJECT ( AS MANY PTSD SUFFERERS DO) YOUR HATE AND DYSFUNCTION ONTO THE AMERICAN PEOPLE. IT IS CLEAR TO ALL THAT YOU DON’T BELONG HERE. YOU NED HELP!

    IT DOES NOT GO UNNOTICED THAT YOU WORK IN A STATE FACULTY CHARGED WITH TREATING THE SAME TYPE OF PERSON THAT HAS, AND QUITE POSSIBLY STILL IS, ABUSING YOU!
    IT’S CRYSTAL CLEAR YOU HATE MEN, AND WOMEN THAT ACT LIKE MEN.
    IT MAY BE TIME TO PULL IN YOUR SAILS FIND A NICE RESTING SPOT ON SHORE AND HEAL.

    SEEK PROFESSIONAL HELP! THE STATE PROVIDES THOSE BENIFITS. YOU ARE CLEARLY AN EMBARRASSMENT FOR THOSE YOU WORK WITH AND FOR.
    BLOGGERS TO THE LEFT AND RIGHT PITY AND MAYBE EVEN DISPISE YOU EQUALLY. IT IS ALSO CLEAR THAT YOU HATE AMERICA.

    I SUGGEST THAT YOU HEAL FIRST AND JUST PLAIN LEAVE US TO MANAGING OUR OWN AFFAIRS, AS YOU HANDLE YOURS

    I WILL PRAY FOR YOU…TO A GOD THAT DOESN’T CONDON THE ABUSE AND KILLING OF WOMEN AND CHILDREN IN THE NAME OF HIMSELF.
    PLEASE TAKE GOOD CARE…PLEASE!

    AS FOR THE POST ON THE SECURITY DETAILS…THAT IS JUST MORE PROOF THAT RADICAL LEFT IS A HATEFUL AND VENGEFUL GROUP THAT DESERVES NOT TO BE IN A POSITION OF GUIDING A NATION OF COMPASSIONATE AND FREEDOM LOVING PEOPLE.

    YOU CAN SEE THAT HATE CLEARLY IN BOB AND ROB’S POSTS AS WELL AS THE LITTLE WEASEL THAT POSTS HIS POISON UN THE ANONYMOUS NAME. YOU THREE STOOGES AREN’T FOOLING ANYONE!

  39. Anonymous
    February 12, 2007 at 3:47 pm

    Australian Leader:
    “Al-Qaida Wants Obama”

    Australia’s conservative prime minister slammed Barack Obama on Sunday over his opposition to the Iraq war, a day after the first-term U.S. senator announced his intention to run for the White House in 2008.

    “I think that will just encourage those who want to completely destabilize and destroy Iraq, and create chaos and a victory for the terrorists to hang on and hope for an Obama victory,” Howard said on Nine Network television.

    “If I were running al-Qaida in Iraq, I would put a circle around March 2008 and be praying as many times as possible for a victory, not only for Obama but also for the Democrats.”

    Obama spokesman Robert Gibbs, traveling with the senator in Iowa, said that Howard’s words were misguided

    Note: This guy is still wet behind the ears but has already taken on the arrogance and superiority of the radical left.

    I sure hope Dave didn’t waste his $50!

  40. Marilyn
    February 12, 2007 at 4:14 pm

    Dave,

    You can tell when personal attacks on politicians and others intensify that some impact is felt as a result of this new government.

    I for one am glad that members of Congress are again expected to work for the money they make. They are being paid to work a 40 hour week, not a 20 hour one. The annual automatic pay raises they voted in for themselves should always humble them to the fact that there are many families in the country who hold down two jobs and who can barely make ends meet. There are many who are forced to work day and night and who cannot see their children because of the long hours they put in. It is causing a lot of broken homes and stress on the families. Caregivers who are rarely present in their children’s lives really cannot be expected to parent properly. Anyone with children can understand that.

    Meanwhile we talk about whose plane is bigger and whose guns are tougher and who is more patriotic that the other, all really not that relevant in the important scheme of things: the welfare and dignity of hard-working citizens.

    Actually the work week schedule is not a Pelosi requirement; it is a requirement of the job laid down by the government and Congress salaries are based on a 40 hour week, not a part-time job. If congressmen want to work less, they should be paid less, not more. All Pelosi was doing was insisting that the work contract these Congressmen signed and the oaths to serve that they gave, be honored by them.

  41. rob in los osos
    February 12, 2007 at 6:27 pm

    Jerry

    Two things

    1st – Stop speaking for everyone. You frequently say things like ‘we’ and ‘all of us’. You speak for NO ONE but yourself. Haven’t you noticed that even the people on ‘your side’ seek to distance themselves from you and your incoherent inflammatory ramblings?
    Personally, I think the only reason Dave puts up with you is that you in some twisted way help his ratings.

    2nd – I don’t hate. I dislike, I get angry about things and I think people like you take themselves far too seriously. But I don’t hate. I actually have probably too large an amount of compassion. I even have compassion for you Jerry. You know the saying about pointing the finger? I really wish you could get some help, and learn to put aside your hatred of all things not like your narrowly defined view of the world. You claim to be a Christian, but I submit to you that nothing that you represent yourself with here is remotely in keeping with Christ’s teachings. You seriously should look into that Jerry. I have a couple good friends who are born-again Christians, and they’ve seen your posts and they both agree that you don’t represent your faith well, if at all. They wonder who your pastor is and if he is aware of your actions. That to me is very telling. So, Jerry, I beg you, please get some help, and learn to let go of your hatred and anger.

  42. Bob from San Luis
    February 12, 2007 at 6:45 pm

    Geez Jerry, you get wrong again and again but you never acknowledge that you have been wrong. As for the “hate” you feel oozing from my comments; you need to learn to distinguish what you call “hate” from plain old garden variety distain about how you make your comments. Have an opposing viewpoint from mine, please, but if you can do like Rich from Paso, I will certainly give you the respect I give him. Rich posts with passion, but he also stays grounded in reality. You, on the other hand, have to revert to crude analogies, baseless assertions and inflammatory rhetoric. If you comment like an adult you will be treated like one. For your very next comment, try to see if you can use “facts” for your assertions. If that seems foreign to you, you can look up the term “facts” in a dictionary. You sound so much smarter on the phone when you call into Dave’s show than you have repeatedly shown yourself to be here. That is my opinion of you, and there is no malice intended in my comments.

    As for the treatment of security personnel by top government officials; If you want to see our taxpayer dollars being spent in a manner that always exhibits top professionalism, look no further than the Secret Service. Always doing the very best job they can, literally willing to lay their lives on the line in the performance of their duty. I for one think that all people deserve respect regardless of their job, income or viewpoint. I find it distressing to think that top politicians would be disrespectful to their protection staff and can certainly admire President Bush’s apparent closeness with his staff. It does show a more humane side of him that I wish he would project to the rest of the world. He could be more humane to our veterans by not cutting their benefits. He could have shown a better respect for life by not mocking Carla Faye Tucker when she pleaded with him for her life after converting to Christianity while on death row in Texas. I would prefer that all Presidents and their families treat their protection staff well, but I am more concerned about how the President treats the rest of the world more.

  43. Anonymous
    February 12, 2007 at 7:32 pm

    I pray that Jerry gets some help.
    The pure utter hatred in his disconnected ramblings is very troubling.

  44. alicia in goldtree
    February 13, 2007 at 12:24 am

    I have noticed some extra strange posts from Jerry lately and his mental state seems in disarray. If anyone has some advice for this poor soul, post it. Lets get him help now! God bless Jerry and all the troubled minds of the world.
    They should not be ridiculed, they should be helped.

  45. Marilyn
    February 13, 2007 at 12:36 am

    “I have noticed some extra strange posts from Jerry lately and his mental state seems in disarray.”
    ———————-

    It is called “intoxication.”

  46. JerryDinAZ
    February 13, 2007 at 1:54 am

    Marilyn said…
    Dave,

    You can tell when personal attacks on politicians and others intensify that some impact is felt as a result of this new government.
    *******************************

    FOR PERFECT EXAMPLES OF THIS STATEMENT SCROLL BACK AND READ THE PAST 6 BLOG POSTS!

    I LOVE IT WHEN YOU LEFTY LIBS MAKE MY POINT FOR ME! AWESOME! LOL!

    SAD THING IS…YOU DON’T EVEN KNOW YOU ARE DOING IT!

    OH! THIS IS GONNA BE A GREAT 2 YEARS! A PARTY WITH NO SOUL, NO INTEGRITY, JUST VIAL HATE, AND THAT SAME PARTY IS SPLITTING DOWN THE MIDDLE IN A CIVIL WAR! AND A PARTY SUPPORTED AND CHEER ON BY THE MOST HATEFUL, RADICAL KILLING MACHINES: THE ISLAMIC TERRORISTS

    GOSH! I’D BE EMBARRASSED TO BE A DEMOCRAT TOO!

    KEEP BLOGGING! KEEP DIGING!

  47. wallace
    February 13, 2007 at 3:00 am

    To Alicia in Goldtree

    Jerry is not crazy, he’s a rattlesnake. I’d trust Ahmadinejad from Iran or even George W Bush before giving Jerry any sympathy.

  48. Rich from Paso
    February 16, 2007 at 12:04 am

    NEWSFLASH!!!! NEWSFLASH!!!!

    FoxNews reporter, Polly Yurathane, is reporting from Iraq that not only was the leader of Al Qaida in Iraq injured and his top aide killed, but so was his top chef, Ibn Ah Poupen, his driver, Ihsheet Mi-Drors, and his personal valet, Yubin Likn Midik. This attack has severely crippled Al Qaida in Iraq’s capabilites in that country.

    I now return you to your regularly scheduled blogging.

    NEWSFLASH!!!! NEWSFLASH!!!!

  49. rob in ublind
    February 16, 2007 at 3:44 am

    I dont know rich, some of those names sound suspicious

  50. Rich in Spirit
    February 16, 2007 at 5:24 am

    I think I saw those names either on the FBi terrorist watch list… or on the Twinkie’s list of ingredients.

  51. NewsstandGreg
    February 16, 2007 at 6:20 am

    Some game the Republicans are playing. Nothing to say on the issues. Yet they’ll take a potshot at Pelosi.

    This is how they show respect for the office of the Speaker of the House…and third in the presidential line of succession.

    Major legislation in less than 100 hours…Ms Pelosi is showing the boys how a woman does it! –G

  52. Rich from Paso
    February 16, 2007 at 9:16 pm

    Greg, to quote a famous movie:

    “Lighten up, Francis!”

  53. JerryDinAZ
    February 16, 2007 at 10:58 pm

    I think that we owe a big round of applause to our newest, bestest buddy, and big toe… Sergeant Hulka.

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