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Marilyn from Lebanon Appeals to KVEC Listeners

Marilyn Farhat has appeared on my show for the last three Tuesdays in a row, attempting to explain the Lebanese perspective on the current Middle East fighting. She has taken a ton of grief from the callers for her positions and I share this email from her with you, inviting your comments:

“I wanted to thank you for giving me the opportunity to be on the show despite the barrage of hate and anger I encountered, but I did bring that up a few weeks ago that when we advocate for people in the Middle East, such behavior emerges.

I know it is an emotional topic for many, but I hope I do not inflict the same kind of hateful comments towards the listeners or others.

I just wanted you know that the last 4 weeks have been difficult and things are catching up. I am trying to figure out a way to get my mom out of her place. The bombing is getting close to her. We have many family members we have not heard from.

I wonder how many of your callers have been through war? How many have had a gun pointed at them?

How many have had to run from one room to the other to escape the bombing? How many had to live with rats in those shelters? How many had to watch their friends and neighbors die daily month after month?

How many heard the screams of tortured victims? How many have seen people kidnapped at gunpoint? How many have seen women being assaulted by the military? How many have been pushed and shoved because some arrogant male with a gun felt like it?

How many had no food except bread and canned meat for days? How many had no water to bathe for weeks? How many tried to intervene to rescue people who were being abused?
How many have been in that position and still tried to go to school or work or just try to survive?

Do they know what it feels like when a 1000 kilogram bomb explodes a couple of hundred yards away? I do. It does something to your brain. It does far worse to your soul. Those are the realities of war and violence that people do not want to think about.

I really would like to know if they have been through that when they call and yell their obscenities.

It is easy to act tough from behind a phone, especially with a woman. There is so much your listeners do not know about me and what I have seen and done.

They do not know about the panic attacks and PTSD that plague you day after day, the medication you had to take just to survive and be able to function. They do not know that the people of Lebanon after years of war are hooked on drugs because of the trauma and PTSD. Those battles, you fight till the last day of your life and they never go away, many of them are from within because someone out there had no respect for human life and somehow you feel you could have done more (the guilt).

Isn’t it ironic that the people I found most understanding, although they may disagree with me, are the ones that have been through all that, the combat veterans. They know when to step back and keep quiet. They know that grief and anger are part of the trauma and people should be allowed to grieve and be angry. They know not to shove your grief in your face and call you names. They know not to rub the pain in to justify their belief. They know not to think in black and white. But, they too are the silent ones and they have many stories to tell. But we do not listen to them after we are done with them in war.

Most people have not been to the Middle East and never had to go through what the people there are going through right now and have gone through for half a century. I was hoping to be able to focus more on civilians and international law. There is a trend nowadays to try to negate those laws to justify the murder of civilians. I am tired of talking about Hezbollah. They are a symptom of the problem not the cause of it. They are the boogie man “de jour.” Tomorrow it will be some other “terrorist” group.

My intent when I went on the show was to educate people with facts that they may not have been aware of and I have tried to back up most of my information and I have given people sources they can go to. It is turning into a tit-for-tat event.

I know this is good for ratings and people get a kick our of bashing a Muslim woman from the Middle East, but I feel that what I am trying to do is important because it is right by the average person. I am really taking a lot of time and energy out of my life amidst a very difficult time for my family in Lebanon. I am not exaggerating when I say they are in dire straits.

I write articles monthly in Information Press, about war/peace, politics, the Middle East, the military, women’s and children’s issues around the world, and justice issues. This month’s issue is about Israel and its war against civilians. I should have left a copy with you. I also work with criminals and I have to learn to treat, yes, even criminals, with respect and dignity although they did not treat their victims respectfully. I do it, we all do it, because it is the right thing to do and it is the humam thing to do. Revenge is not a creed we live by in our daily lives, so why should we tolerate it when the guns are “ablazing?”

I am exhausted, sad, and sometimes angry, but I hope to god that I never treat my fellow citizens the way some of those callers treat your guests sometimes. But I guess that tells a little bit why people are vicious in their fighting fighting all the time.

I would like to thank you again for being a gracious host. I am willing to go back on the show if you want me again (and if you survive the assault).”

Marilyn

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  1. Anonymous
    August 10, 2006 at 5:10 am

    Dave,

    I can’t believe you posted this CRAP. This woman is a Jew-hater. How does she think the Israeli people are acting right now, hiding in bunkers, being picked off at random by missiles? It cuts both ways! How dare she suggest that only her side is suffering!

    Please do not allow this woman on the airwaves again. It’s propaganda pure and simple and you should know better.

  2. Anonymous
    August 10, 2006 at 5:45 am

    Here is a link to an amazing statement which appeared on Al Jazeera television. The woman, Wafa Sultan is very brave in her scolding of the Muslim religion and it’s treatment of women and other cultures. Her statements are powerful. She is an secular Arab American who was born in Syria. She is a psychologist in Southern California. Please check it out as a means of further education.

    Mike

    http://switch3.castup.net/cunet/gm.asp?ai=214&ar=1050wmv&ak=null

  3. Bob from San Luis
    August 10, 2006 at 6:39 am

    I haven’t been able to hear Marilyn on the show, I just caught a little of the last show. My question for all of the righties who are blasting this woman: Is it possible for anyone to criticize any action by Israel without being classified as a “Jew-hater”? Is it even possible that Israel has ever taken a military action that caused an accidental death? Mistaken a civilian for a military target? With all of the technology of laser guided bombs and precision targeting systems, how is it even possible that innocent civilians are mistakenly killed? Are they being killed on purpose? I understand that the underlying thrust behind Israel’s actions are “defensive”, meant to protect Israel from the attacks on their very existence; my question is why is it that the actions of Israel are usually so controversial? The current situation with Hezzbolah in Lebanon to me begs a question: If there is a state of war, wouldn’t the taking of the Israeli soldiers be considered as “capturing” instead of “kidnapping”? If there was not a condition of being at war, wouldn’t the action of kidnapping usually be a matter for law enforcement, not military action? Is it possible that the leaders of Israel are doing like our leaders and getting them involved into a conflict that a majority of the populace didn’t want to get into?

  4. Adam Hill
    August 10, 2006 at 2:22 pm

    I would highly recommend the article I’ve provided the link to below. It’s by Tony Judt, the very distinguished historian, and it appeared in Haaretz, a leading Israeli newspaper.

    http://www.haaretz.com/hasen/spages/711997.html

  5. Kirk In SLO
    August 10, 2006 at 2:27 pm

    Go back and listen to the podcast when Marilyn was on and someone asked her what started this war. She went on and on about how Hezzbolah didn’t start firing missles, Israel did. When she finally got around to why Israel did what they did, she totally downplayed the capturing and murdering of Israeli soldiers by Hezzbolah. It was at that point (it was very clear, again, find the podcast) that she lost all credibility to me.

    Jimmy Carter’s response to the kidnapping of Americans during his administration caused the nation to brand him a coward, and it cost him the White House. Why would anyone think that approach should be ever used again by any nation?

  6. Anonymous
    August 10, 2006 at 5:31 pm

    Dave,
    Please don’t let the Faschist Republicans take over your program. Isn’t it enough that they have Hannity and Rush, etc. spewing their lying and hateful talking points from the White House.

    I am only using anonymous because I am afraid of my government.

    Waiting for V,
    Anonymous

  7. Kirk In SLO
    August 10, 2006 at 5:57 pm

    Maybe you should learn how to spell the word facist before you start referring to people as one? The bonus will be that when you look it up in the dictonary to learn how to spell it, if you read a little further down, it’ll even have a definition.

    If you’re so afraid of your government that you’re blogging anonymously, you win the biggest liberal dumbass award on the Congalton blog. Congratulations.

    New Tone: You’ve come to the right place. Head on down to Spencers (those other stores use customer discount cards with your name embedded in them and the computers have a direct uplink to the White House) and buy a few boxes of aluminum foil. Use it to make hats, underwear, umbrellas, etc to keep the mind control waves of Karl away.

    Next, find the video clip of Gore screaming “He betrayed this country! He played upon our fears!” and watch it over and over again. Use eyedrops and Clockwork Orange eye forks if necessary. Make sure when you talk, veins on your forehead look as though they’re about to burst out and slap your opponents across the face. Don’t have big forehead veins? Plastic surgery, baby.

    Do these things and then get back to me. I’ll be your image consultant. It’ll alllll be good.

  8. JerryDinAZ
    August 10, 2006 at 6:08 pm

    NICE TRY MARILYN. IT IS YOUR COUNTRY THAT INVITED HEZBOLLAH INTO YOUR COUNTRY AND INTO YOUR GOVERNMENT. WHAT DID YOU THINK WOULD HAPPEN? THEY ARE FUNDED AND TRAINED BY IRAN AND SYRIA, AND ARE COMMITTED TO ONE THING…THE KILL ALL JEWS, AND CITIZENS OF THE FREE WEST. NEXT TIME CHOOSE YOUR POLITICAL AND MILITARY FACTIONS MORE CAREFULLY IF YOU CARE ABOUT YOUR COUNTRIES POPULATION. HEZBOLLAH FIRED THE FIRST SHOT, AND THIS TIME ISREAL WILL FIRE THE LAST. THIS WONT GOES AWAY WITHOUT A 100% ISREALI WIN. JUST AS IT IS IN IRAQ. VICTORY OR NOTHING!
    RADICAL ISLAM MUST AND WILL BE DESTROYED. DID YOU TRY TO BOARD A PLANE THIS MORNING? THIS IS A WORLD WIDE BATTLE AGAINST THOSE THAT HATE THE JEWS AND AMERICANS MORE THAN THEY LOVE THEIR CHILDREN.
    SO WRITE ON, BUT NOTHING WILL CHANGE THE FACTS. ISREAL AND AMERICA DIDN’T START THESE WARS…BUT YOU CAN COUNT ON US TO END THEM. WHEN THAT GOAL IS REACHED ALL WILL BE SAFER. IN THE FUTURE VOTE MORE CAREFULLY AS AMERICANS WILL WHEN THEY KEEP THE STRONG REPUBLICAN PARTY IN POWER IN 2006 & 2008.

  9. MysticFire
    August 10, 2006 at 7:20 pm

    I’m almost appauled by Marilyn’s letter. At first it seems as if she’s sincere in trying to get people to understand the civilian point of this war. I understand, probably more than most, about PTSD and panic attacks. I couldn’t stand the thoughts of knowing my mother was in danger from bombings, or even soldiers gone awry. It’s all very heart wrenching to know that civilians are feeling the effects of this war, or any war. Believe me, I’ll be the first to tell you those who are civilians that truly want PEACE have my complete and total compassion. but….

    Then she says she’s “tired of talking about Hezbollah”, and that they are just the “boogie man du jour”. Then there’s the clincher…about the tendancy to “negate these (international) laws to kill civilians”. These comments are just unbelieveable. Then the “I know this is good for ratings and people get a kick our of bashing a Muslim woman from the Middle East”…holy cow what a self-righteous, “poor me” kind of statement.

    If she’s tired of talking about hezbollah, then she is apparently tired of talking about the war between Israel and Hezbollah. Because hezbollah started it with capturing and killing some soldiers. It’s amazing to me how that’s so quickly over looked.

    Anonymous #1 said it best, this is crap, and it cuts both ways!

    Really it’s pathetic and sad that she would make these statements when there are people (including her mother I believe) that are suffering the consequences of ANY war. Her “poor me” attitude isn’t helping her cause, it’s hurting it.

  10. Anonymous
    August 10, 2006 at 7:27 pm

    Kirk,
    You dumbass xenophobe. Here is your definition. I would have used NAZI, but was trying to be polite.
    Wikipedia:
    Der Begriff Faschismus bezeichnet homonym verschiedene sich ähnelnde politische Ideologien und die ihn tragenden Massenbewegungen, welche zu Beginn des 20. Jahrhunderts entstanden sind. Ein zentrales Element der faschistischen Ideologie ist der Autoritarismus. Er wird in verschiedener Weise gebraucht:

    1. Die Bewegung („movimento“) oder auch die Schwarzhemden Benito Mussolinis (1919-1922) und der „Stil“ des daran anschließenden politischen Regimes (1922-1943/45) in Italien als Faschismus im engeren Sinne (vor allem in den 1920er und 1930er Jahren auch „Fascismus“ genannt).
    2. Nach einer Interpretation durch Faschismusforscher wie Ernst Nolte (seit 1963) schließt der Begriff neben den anderen antidemokratischen, antiliberalen und antikommunistischen Ideologien als Vergleichskategorie auch den deutschen Nationalsozialismus und verschiedene kleinere Bewegungen im Europa der Zwischenkriegszeit mit ein. Jedoch wird in diesem Zusammenhang etwa nicht ohne Weiteres vom „deutschen Faschismus“ gesprochen – „Faschismus“ dient hier allein als Begriff für eine bestimmte Art politischer Richtungen und Regime in der Zeit der Weltkriege (also zwischen 1918/19 und 1945).
    3. Schon seit den frühen zwanziger Jahren wurde er von Sozialdemokraten und von Kommunisten weitgehend mit einem militanten Antikommunismus und dem sogenannten „Spätkapitalismus“ als extreme Ausprägung kapitalistischer Herrschaftsordnung gleichgesetzt.
    4. In den sozialistischen Ländern des Ostblocks wurde er gleichbedeutend mit Nationalsozialismus verwendet. Der Begriff Nationalsozialismus wurde strikt vermieden, da das enthaltene Wort „Sozialismus“ eine Nähe zum herrschenden Regime nahegelegt hätte.

    Abgeleitet ist der Begriff Faschismus nach Aussagen der faschistischen Propaganda vom italienischen fascio beziehungsweise dem lateinischen Begriff fasces für Bund, Bündel. Dahinter steht die reziprok-altruistische These “Gemeinsam sind wir stark”.

    Er geht zurück auf die fasces, Rutenbündel, die die antiken Liktoren als Symbol der Macht des Römischen Reiches dem römischen Machthaber (Konsul, Imperator, Statthalter) vorantrugen. Außerhalb Roms wurde die Machtdemonstration verstärkt, indem die Liktoren nicht nur die fasces, also die Rutenbündel, sondern zusätzlich ein darin eingewickeltes Beil mit sich führten. Ein solches Rutenbündel mit Beil wird deshalb auch als Liktorenbündel (italienisch littorio) bezeichnet. Dieses wurde auch zu einem offiziellen Zeichen der italienischen Bewegung. Der dadurch dokumentierte Machtanspruch zeigt sich auch in Monumentalbauten wie dem Siegesdenkmal Bozen. In der persönlichen Standarte Mussolinis war es ebenfalls vertreten.

    „Faschismus“ (italienisch fascismo) ist aber auch eine Ableitung zum italienischen Begriff fascio („Bund“) und hat damit etymologisch auch eine katholisch-sozialistische Tradition – Ende des 19. Jahrhunderts formierten sich vor allem auf Sizilien soziale Protestbewegungen als fasci. Diese Konnotation des Begriffs dürfte bei der Namensgebung des italienischen Faschismus 1919 bestimmender gewesen sein als der römische Hintergrund, der später in der Selbstdarstellung aber fast ausschließlich betont wurde, um dem Faschismus historische Kontinuität beizulegen.

  11. MysticFire
    August 10, 2006 at 7:31 pm

    Wow…Anoymous…

    Grasping at straws for some response aren’t you?

  12. Robyn by the Bay
    August 10, 2006 at 9:17 pm

    Marilyn’s impassioned plea aside, she did at one point say something that ran along the lines of: “If being against Israel means I’m a ‘Jew-hater’, then fine. Call me a ‘Jew-Hater’–I’m proud of it.”

    I was shocked. It’s that kind of attitude that has allowed terrorist groups like Hezbollah into power in the middle east.

    Here’s the difference between Hezbollah and Israel–Israel’s goal is NOT to wipe out every Muslim on the planet, unlike Hezbollah who want to murder every Jew on earth.

    Keep in mind, that if Hezbollah and other anti-semtic groups obtain their goals of killing all Jews, they will not be done. They would simply move on to Christians, and then other faiths. This is not just about hating Jews, it’s about hating everyone who is not like them. Everyone.

  13. Bob from San Luis
    August 13, 2006 at 5:28 am

    Robyn: I was listening to the program and I too heard Marilyn make that statement; what I took from her tone when she spoke that line was the desperation in her voice, in which she was exasperated by the supplying to Israel by the US of uranium tipped bombs and/or shells. These munitions are prohibited by international standards when deployed against civilian targets, and we are supplying them to Israel. I believe that was the focus of her frustration, and maybe she was trying to focus on many of the potential illegal actions taken by Israel during this conflict. I will say that I don’t know any of that for sure, but I am willing to give her the benefit of the doubt for now. I would like see her answer as to if she really means that she is a “Jew-hater”, or, if she blurted that out during a moment of frustration.

  14. Rich from Paso
    August 14, 2006 at 8:49 pm

    It is pure fantasy and folly that we undertake at our own risk to think that Hezbollah are “freedom fighters” and Israel is the “criminal” party. Israelis don’t strap on bomb vests to kill Hezbollah civilians; the opposite s true. Israel did not kidnap and kill Hezbollah soldiers by sneaking into Lebanon and kidnapping them in the dead of night via tunnels dug into the Lebanese countryside; the opposite is true. Hezbollah is a terrorist army bent on the destruction of Israel and are acting in concert with the Iranians to engage in a proxy war with the United States.

    Bur, Rich, Hezbollah was the democratically elected to the Lebanese parliment, you say. Imagine if the Democratic National Committees armed wing kidnapped two Canadian soldiers and killed three others in an effort to win the release of DNC operatives held in Canada. Furthermore, the DNC had a history of firing rockets and missles into Canada from the cities of Buffalo and Detroit. Wouldn’t Canada be in the right to 1) hold the United States government responsible for the actions of the DNC, 2) take actions to ensure that the DNC did not retain the capacity to kidnapp soldiers and fire rockets into Toronto. Disporportionate, you say; in a pig’s eye. Hezbollah, as a democratically elected representative of the Lebanese government, committed acts of war (for like the upteenth billion time) on Israel and Isarel responded like a country at war. For Marilyn or any other terrorist sympathizer to say that Israel used disproportionate amount of force totally ignores the fact that Israel could have been at war with Lebanon and Syria (for supplying Hezbollah with their arms and training) and flies in the face of common sense. Marimay wish for Israel to cease to exist, but Israel has a ligitimate right to exist, and therefore, a legitimate right to self-defense.

  15. JerryDinAZ
    August 14, 2006 at 10:29 pm

    I LIKE MUSHROOMS, AND I LIKE CLOUDS.
    BUT I DON’T LIKE “MUSHROOM CLOUDS”
    YOU CAN NOT NEGOTIATE WITH PEOPLE THAT WANT TO KILL THEIR CHILDREN! MAYBE WE DO NEED A MUSHROOMCLOUD…

  16. DUMBJERRYINHOTASSARIZONA
    August 15, 2006 at 2:52 am

    IM STUPID, I MAKE STATEMENTS THAT REALLY SAY NOTHING. I MOVED TO AZ ‘CAUSE I COULDN’T MAKE IT IN CALIF. I CONTINUALLY GET DUCT TAPE STUCK TO MY FOREHEAD AND I CANT SEEM TO FIGURE OUT HOW TO MAKE A COHERENT THOUGHT COME OUT OF MY BRAIN

  17. JerryDinAZ
    August 15, 2006 at 3:15 pm

    DUMBJERRYINHOTASSARIZONA said…
    “THE DRIVE-BY MEDIA” IS LIKE THIS JEALOUS “DRIVE-BY BLOGGER”
    THEY ARE BOTH EXACTLY LIKE DRIVE-BY SHOOTERS, THEY PULL UP, THEY SPRAY A HAIL OF BULLETS INTO THE CROWD. TRY TO CAUSE HYSTERIA, CONFUSION, MISTAKES, AND MISINTERPRETATION, AND THEN THE DRIVE-BY MEDIA/BLOGGERS SMIRKS AND RIDE AWAY. THEY’RE NEVER BLAMED, THEY’RE NEVER HELD ACCOUNTABLE.
    HOWEVER… IMITATION IS THE SINCEREST FORM OF FLATTERY FOR THIS DRIVE-BY BLOGGER.

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