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During a press conference today at the G8 summit in Russia, President Bush told President Vladimir Putin that Americans want Russia to develop a free press and free religion “like Iraq.” To laughter and applause, Putin responded: “We certainly would not want to have same kind of democracy as they have in Iraq, quite honestly.” CNN’s Ed Henry called it a “tough jab.”

The exchange underscores how the war in Iraq has damaged the standing of the United States, to the point where even modest encouragement for democratic reform is met with ridicule.

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  1. Charlie in Atascadero
    July 15, 2006 at 6:47 pm

    Boy, “Putie” really stuck it to W! The Middle East has become such a hornet’s nest. I fear for what will happen. Looking forward to hearing what Chris has to say Monday night. Thanks, Dave.

  2. Rich from Paso
    July 15, 2006 at 11:26 pm

    Of course Putin wou’ldn’t want a democracy like Iraq. Czar Putin likes the hegemony he exerts over Russia these days. He can jail the CEO of Gazprom and nationalize all of its assets and then turn around and extort Ukraine. Putin has gone to great lengths to take more and more control away from the legislature and the judiciary and give it to himself (stop, before you even write it, there is NO parallel between Bush and Putin). Just like the liberals to fret and worry about the opinions of the former (and probably still current) head of the KGB. Yes, Dave, the days of us dipping the US flag to the Vietnamese by CLinton, and Maddy Not-so-bright dancing with Kim Jung Il and of us worrying about our prestige with third world dictators is over.

  3. The New Tone of San Luis Obispo
    July 16, 2006 at 8:02 pm

    Wow! Putin really stuck it to the Ding Dong Bush! Yuck yuck yuck! I mean, like, Russia, Germany, and China are on the correct side of most things, and they knew thhat Iraq had no WMD’s! They are very correct indeed. They knew because Russian advisors were there helping Saddam keep his brutal and UN defying regime. Mass graves, torture, you libs do not really give a rats ass. The killing in Iraq today is no worse than it was when Saddam with Russia’s help killed off whole families.

    Dave, I am sorry but you are foolish to think Russia is an friend or a democracy.

  4. Guy Murray
    July 17, 2006 at 3:02 am

    Yeah . . .well, the truth hurts don’t it?

  5. Kirk In SLO
    July 17, 2006 at 9:49 pm

    I notice not a single liberal stepped up with a solution to the global terror and Islamofascism problem that faces the world today. Not one.

    I guess it’s easier to sit back and criticize than to offer meaningful dialogue.

    Blah blah blah, Bush is an idiot. Blah blah blah, the Republicans are all war mongers. Blah blah blah, we were robbed in that election. Blah blah blah, elect us and it will all be better.

    How? How will it be better? Well, it just will. You can trust us. Really.

    George Bush could say the sky is blue and you folks would argue with him. I, for one, am not a big GWB fan (too much growth of government and too much intrusion on personal liberties), but I think his stance on the war on terror is a helluva lot better than we’d have gotten from the Waffle boy or that dude that invented the Internet.

  6. Bob from San Luis
    July 18, 2006 at 3:11 am

    I notice not a single liberal stepped up with a solution to the global terror and Islamofascism problem that faces the world today. Not one.

    Perhaps there is no “single” solution- it is a very complicated situation and no “easy” solution will bring about a true “end” to global terror, which is currently being perpetrated by the followers of Islamofascism. Islam itself is not the problem, but the followers have perverted the religion to their purposes. Islam was established about 600 years after Christianity, so if you compare where Islam is today with where Christianity was 600 years ago, you can see a correlation. Remember the Inquisition? Of course no comparison like that can justify the violence and terrorism that the Islamofascists are continuing to wreak, but it can provide a starting place to solve the violence that is occurring. One “fact” is indisputable; we, or Israel or England or anyone else cannot continue the current “whack-a-mole” approach of responding to violence with like violence. I for one cannot see how we can be “victorious” over terrorism by killing more and more people; that approach plays right into the terrorists hands by serving as a recruitment poster for their cause. I don’t believe that we can kill them all and we certainly cannot ignore them; so what do we do? In Iraq we need to remove the largest issue that unites the “insurgents”; unemployment of the adult, able-bodied, male dominated population who attack our troops and each other’s religious beliefs mainly because they cannot provide for their families. Invalidate the contracts for rebuilding Iraq that are not being lived up to by the American companies and our troops can concentrate on providing training for the Iraqi forces. Allow Iraqi firms and international firms to provide jobs for those who would rather work and provide instead of attacking each other and us.
    As for the current explosion of violence occurring in Israel, that is a much more complex problem, which the US is certainly not helping to diffuse by providing a near unlimited funding of Israel’s military as well as close support to same. This has to be an international agreed solution; the Security Council of the UN should enforce a cease-fire, on both sides! I don’t want any country attacking Israel, period; but how many times has Israel ignored UN sanctions or demands? I know Israel is protecting itself; no argument there, but a measured response would not have escalated the violence to level it is now. Hezzbolah needs to be reduced to a body that serves a political purpose only. Removing any and all ability to attack with military force is essential to peace in the region. To remove Hezzbolah’s ability to wage war would mean removing their financial support, most of which seems to come from Iran. The UN needs to be in charge of taking on the task of removing the funding of Hezzbolah by Iran either by sanctions that would cripple Iran, or a true “international” peace keeping force putting forth some sort of blockade of Iran or maybe some limited military action against Iran, if that can serve the purpose of removing the ability of funding Hezzbolah. Like I said before, this is an extremely complex issue and no simple solution will present itself easily, but a “cowboy” diplomacy sure will not get the job done either.

  7. The New Tone of San Luis Obispo
    July 18, 2006 at 6:53 am

    Just finished watching Flight 93 on DVD. Just reminded my why Bob is so wrong. How many muslim leaders condem 911 or the followers of these clowns. The koran tells the followers to convert or behead non believers. Peaceful? just like Dave’s ass is not hairy. Give me a beak Bob, give these followers a job and free health checkups from Saint Lois Capps and you have a health, wealthy extremist. Solution, go to war with them, kill the bad people, and win.

  8. Bob from San Luis
    July 18, 2006 at 8:38 pm

    New Tone: Give you a break? The extremists that attacked us on Sept. 11 had no ties to Iraq, and most of the insurgents in Iraq have no ties to terrorism, other than that they are fighting occupiers in their country, and many who have an extremist religious view are using their majority of population in certain areas as an opportunity to attack those who do not share their religious views. Yes, if you offer jobs to those people, if you actually fix the sewer, water and electricity services, the need for terrorism is reduced, if not eliminated in Iraq. Your “solution” of killing {bad} people will not ‘win’ you anything, because you are only encouraging more terrorist attacks, you are in fact playing right into the recruiting by Al-Qada. You cannot kill everyone in the middle east and expect to eliminate terrorism in the world. Why do you insist on continued killing, which also kills more innocent people. The more innocents that are killed only serve the purpose of retaliation against us and anyone perceived as supporting us, resulting in more terrorists being created. True terrorists are few and far between; many are created by circumstances: Relatives being killed indiscriminately, not being able to find food, water, shelter, having your religious beliefs continually attacked or outlawed, etc, etc. I don’t see how you can expect a military solution can solve a human survival issue.

  9. Kirk In SLO
    July 18, 2006 at 9:08 pm

    If only I were a liberal dope fiend, this would all make sense to me.

    Make bread, not bombs. Feed them. Give them jobs, fix their sewer. They’re all good people who want to hug us, but their sewer is broken so they’re blowing themselves up to kill us in the name of Allah.

    Let’s all hold hands, sing Kumbaya, close our eyes, and wish these terrorists into submission.

    Are they gone yet?

    How about now?

    Now?

  10. MysticFire
    July 18, 2006 at 9:13 pm

    I have NO clue what Bob’s thinking.

    kumbaya…my lord…
    kumbaya….

  11. Bob from San Luis
    July 18, 2006 at 11:34 pm

    Kirk, Mysticfire: Of course you have no clue, I am not advocating for open warfare, illegal sniper attacks or outright nuclear war. What the hell is with the right and the obsession with spilling blood and killing? Do you not think there is ever going to a chance for peace in the middle East? Do you really believe that there legions of Islamofascists who want nothing more than to wreak havoc on any western leaning country? The numbers of those who wish us harm should be going down if we are killing them, right? Why is it then that the violence in Iraq is intensifying if we are being so successful at killing the insurgents? Could it be that our being there is giving them a cause to strive for?

    As for the stupid assertion that any one who is liberal in their politics is somehow a “dope fiend”; good God, grow up. If you can’t convey your viewpoint without some adult perspective here, go back to FreeRepublic.com or where ever people like you post crap like that to each other. I own my home, I have a small business, my wife of 33 years and I have raised three kids who all graduated college, they don’t smoke, drink or do drugs, they’ve never been arrested, pierced or tattooed, they have never joined a cult, so they don’t vote Republican.

  12. MysticFire
    July 18, 2006 at 11:52 pm

    So give us SOME idea, (obviously there isn’t ONE answer) of what YOU would do if YOU were president to stop the violence and the war. If you held the world in your hands, how would you create the peace EVERYONE wants.

    You can’t honestly think anyone wants to see people getting killed. But you also can’t honestly say you think backing down from terrorists is the best plan…

    So clue in my ‘republican’ mind…

  13. Kirk In SLO
    July 18, 2006 at 11:55 pm

    You know how it is, Bob. We’re all blood crazed steely-eyed dealers of death over here in the Republican party.

    I painted those on the left as dope fiends to prove a point: Us conservatives are tired of the bullshit stereotyping that the liberals dish out. You think we’re blood thirsty lovers of war. I happen to hate war. It’s awful. It breaks my heart to know that we’re sending our boys in harms way, and that many children in young families will grow up without a parent. It sickens me, and humbles the shit out of me.

    There are things in life, Bob, that are worth fighting for. I’m going way off topic here, but endulge me for a minute.

    Is anything worth spilling blood for, Bob? How about if some crazy son of a bitch is attacking your wife or kids? What would you do? Reason with them? Call the UN? Call the police? They’ll be there in 10 minutes, Bob. Better tell that attacker to wait.

    The islamofascists are terrorists. I do believe that there are hoards of them that hate us, and it ain’t because their sewer is broken.

    We have some mighty f-ed up religious folks in this country that would like to impose their views on all of us. I don’t happen to subscribe to that viewpoint, and it sickens me to see the likes of Jerry Falwell telling people he disagrees with that God is punishing us because of their behavior. But it’s just talk, so I ignore it, knowing that smarter heads will prevail.

    It doesn’t work that way with these islamofacists. They want to kill us. Just ask them. It’s part of their warped view of their religion. This is nothing new to Israel, but we’re new to the party. And no matter how big of a threat these people are, some people just don’t have the stomach for war. Thank God there are those that do.

  14. Rich from Paso
    July 19, 2006 at 1:16 am

    Conservatives and Israel appear to be the only people world who understand that Hamas and Hezbollah will never be a purely political entity. The only reason why Hamas ever wanted to be political is to offer them the legitamacy of being a government by which they could continue to try and destroy Israel, which by the way includes killing every man, woman and child in that country. The best thing to happen to Lebanon is for Israel to purge that country of its terroist influences. We did that to Afghanistan, Israel is doing it to Lebanon. When will you liberal fantasy island dwellers (you don’t like dope fiend slurs) wake up and realize that we have been fighting a war with Iran since 1979 and it has now become World War III. That is a fact the liberals in the world refuse to acknowledge.

  15. Anonymous
    July 19, 2006 at 2:43 pm

    Terrorists don’t want to talk! They want virgins! So let’s help em out. Bang you’re dead…and we’re safe. Not a bad trade. We get safety and they get virgins. Well, at least we get safety! LOL

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